Storm Financial Group

[Garpal Gumnut]

GG, i really don't care what they believe on their site, or what they tell people, the main thing is, the "money spiders" are gone, and the people who visit the site can now do so without being accosted by the "crawlies".

The money spiders are back.
They are a worry at SICAG.

gg

 

[Solly]

The money spiders are back.
They are a worry at SICAG.

gg

gg, I think it is a trap. Maybe the SICAG bunch are attempting to use some mind games to unsettle you. Or maybe they just fixed a dodgey animated gif... I'm not a fan of the "money spiders" either but I do see they are still looking for a site logo. Any suggestions ?

 

[Julia]

The money spiders are back.
They are a worry at SICAG.

gg

With apologies for my ignorance, what actually are money spiders?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

With apologies for my ignorance, what actually are money spiders?

Julia you surprise me.

They are Linyphiidae.

gg

 

[darkside]

Julia you surprise me.

They are Linyphiidae.

gg

Funny GG , not entirely helpfull , but none the less amusing in your own way.


Julia, the "money spiders" are irritating little ant gifs on the SICAG website , that GG , named the "Money Spiders" some while back . He has now been revered by all the Araneide lovers world wide, and not so adored from the SICAG site, although he was only trying to help them , by pointing out how hard it was to navigate their site with these annoying little crawlies all over the place.

 

[Julia]

Thank you for the entymological reference gg.
It doesn't help me at all to understand the connection to Storm.
I'm happy to admit to being dim about this.
Kindly indulge me and explain the relevance to Storm.
With grateful thanks.
Julia

 

[darkside]

gg, I think it is a trap. Maybe the SICAG bunch are attempting to use some mind games to unsettle you. Or maybe they just fixed a dodgey animated gif... I'm not a fan of the "money spiders" either but I do see they are still looking for a site logo. Any suggestions ?

Oh Solly, you are so leaving the door open with that one, ok let me start , How about an "EMU"

Yes you know why.

 

[Julia]

Ah, thank you, Darkside.
Being unfamiliar with the SICAG website, I had no idea what he was on about.

 

[darkside]

Ah, thank you, Darkside.
Being unfamiliar with the SICAG website, I had no idea what he was on about.

Your welcome , sometimes GG is just too funny for his own good, but we still love him !!

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Your welcome , sometimes GG is just too funny for his own good, but we still love him !!

Thanks Solly, darkside and Julia.

I seem to have upset the Manny Cassimatis believers in SICAG.

I have received some quite inappropriate emails at ggumnut@yahoo.com but I can live with that.

So I propose a deal with the SICAG higherups.

They can keep their money spiders but they get rid of this blatant endorsement of the Cassimatis Storm Model.

An obscenity on a blog dedicated to protecting Storm Victims.

From SICAG

Before you commit to anything,ask about fees!

Remember, the Storm Fees model charged nothing for discussions until something was actually done. Most of the financial planning industry charge fees for each appointment regardless of outcome!

I really feel this is quite an inappropriate statement on a site dedicated to work for Storm Victims.

The "outcome" for the "free" advice from Storm was poverty, penury and a wholesale wreckage of the dreams and aspirations of Australian investors who did not want to bludge off the system.

So I repeat.

Keep the money spiders.

Get rid of the Storm endorsement.

(btw, a Storm logo was recently only just taken down from the site after I complained.)

gg

 

[Smiley]

GG, I totally applaud your comments in terms of the inappropriate statement on the SICAG site about the storm model - no fees upfront.
I think everyone would gladly have paid fees for good advice and not 7% commission for lousy advice.
It also concerns me that negotiations are being done on behalf of ex-clients as if SICAG represents all . . . .
So stormified out there - let Mark and Noel know you do not like the endrosement of the storm model on the SICAG site (perhaps added by Luke Vogel, who claims all would have been saved if only banks had acted sooner - what about the sh... advice) and queries should be made of stormified opinions before they act.

 

[darkside]

Thanks Solly, darkside and Julia.

I seem to have upset the Manny Cassimatis believers in SICAG.


They can keep their money spiders but they get rid of this blatant endorsement of the Cassimatis Storm Model.


So I repeat.

Keep the money spiders.

Get rid of the Storm endorsement.

(btw, a Storm logo was recently only just taken down from the site after I complained.)

gg

No GG, thats not the deal , the "money spiders" have to go , you have come this far, i think all of the storm victims will feel more than compensated by the whole Storm debarcle if they just Baygon the spiders.

Ok , maybe it won't cheer them up , but it will make me feel a lot better, now back to the logo !

 

[maccka]

Thank you for the entymological reference gg.
It doesn't help me at all to understand the connection to Storm.
I'm happy to admit to being dim about this.
Kindly indulge me and explain the relevance to Storm.
With grateful thanks.
Julia

Hi Julia,

There is no connection to Storm Financial. The connection is to SICAG. It has been explained in a number of posts on this forum that you must have missed.

Mash speaks the truth. The critters are ants not spiders. They are there for the benefit of SICAG members not necessarily for other people.

As Mash suggested, it came about when SICAG members were at a bbq together and one was bitten by a fierce ant. Thinking nothing of it he squashed it only to have it let off a pheromone in its death throws that caused hundreds of ants to swarm out of the nest and set to biting the big boy that squashed their fellow ant. It did not take long before the annoyance of the mass of ants moved the SICAG members from their comfortable positions to somewhere else that the ants were much happier with.

GG, they are/were not money spiders; they are/were ants. The ant metaphor grew out of the SICAG information road trip earlier this year. We were sitting on the verandah of a Storm client's house in Rocky where we were being billeted when Co-chairman Noel O'Brien was attacked by some nasty little black ants. That prompted a humorous discussion about how the ants reminded us of SICAG and its strategy to get EC/JC and the banks to admit their role and their level of culpability in the Storm affair and breast the negotiating table. The man running the website (Luke Vogel) thought it worthwhile putting some active ants on the site. Not all that Machiavellian, hey GG?

I think Mash explained them also but couldn't find the quote.

Also GG. Spiders have 8 legs. Ants have 6. The critters on the SICAG site have 6 legs and 2 antennae. Quite obviously they are ants.

I wonder if the focus by this forum on these critters is a huge waste of energy. Maybe it needs to go into more important things?

cheers
Maccka

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

GG, I totally applaud your comments in terms of the inappropriate statement on the SICAG site about the storm model - no fees upfront.
I think everyone would gladly have paid fees for good advice and not 7% commission for lousy advice.
It also concerns me that negotiations are being done on behalf of ex-clients as if SICAG represents all . . . .
So stormified out there - let Mark and Noel know you do not like the endrosement of the storm model on the SICAG site (perhaps added by Luke Vogel, who claims all would have been saved if only banks had acted sooner - what about the sh... advice) and queries should be made of stormified opinions before they act.

thanks Smiley,

I feel like the one eyed man in the land of the blind.

The SICAG site oozes sympathy for Manny, the Cassimatis model and the Storm Financial model.

My mate, of whom I spoke in the first post of this thread has finally seen the light.

But SICAG seem protective of Manny and Julie.

And it just doesn't make sense.

They have dumped quite rightly on everyone else in this saga.

The money spider mob keep on going for some reason.

What they fail to realise is that unless Manny Cassimatis and Storm Financial had existed with their **** financial model, they wouldn't be in the hole they are in now.

But they still endorse the Storm model on their front page and they still have that ****ing money spider aroamin all over the place like a Masonic meeting in the Vatican.

gg

 

[Julia]

Hi Julia,

There is no connection to Storm Financial. The connection is to SICAG. It has been explained in a number of posts on this forum that you must have missed................

Thank you maccka. Your clarification is much appreciated.

 

[Solly]

If SICAG are still looking for a logo maybe they could use the "Atom Ant" symbol, it would fit in with their website theme, maybe Hanna-Barbera could cut a deal with them under the circumstances. Of course I'm too young to remember the original TV show but I'm sure gg would have fond memories watching on his 18 inch B&W PYE....

 

[Solly]

"Storm wash-up hits Coast hard"

"Dozens of Coast residents have been devastated by losses from the Storm Financial fallout, MP Alex Somlyay says."

More here by Alan Lander in The Sunshine Coast Daily;

http://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2009/jul/19/storm-wash--hits-coast-hard-financial/

 

[Solly]

Regarding the Inquiry into Financial Products and Services in Australia;

There appears to be 31 recent submissions that are 'confidential'.

It would be interesting to know if any are related to Storm.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

If SICAG are still looking for a logo maybe they could use the "Atom Ant" symbol, it would fit in with their website theme, maybe Hanna-Barbera could cut a deal with them under the circumstances. Of course I'm too young to remember the original TV show but I'm sure gg would have fond memories watching on his 18 inch B&W PYE....

lol mate, but if Atom Ant were their logo who would be Ferocious Flea and mad scientist Professor Von Gimmick.

Let us not go there.

I could send down some Garpalmoneyspiders which breed in my office.

Although I guess the following might be more apt.

A TROJAN HORSE.

It was full of opposing people of a nationality which evades my ailing memory, who sneaked into Troy, destroying the happiness and wealth of the populace.

Much as Storm has.

Would it be appropriate?

SICAG

gg



A TROJAN HORSE

 

[Judd]

"Storm wash-up hits Coast hard"

"Dozens of Coast residents have been devastated by losses from the Storm Financial fallout, MP Alex Somlyay says."

More here by Alan Lander in The Sunshine Coast Daily;

http://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2009/jul/19/storm-wash--hits-coast-hard-financial/

Stupid thing is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with margin loans as a product. It's the extreme gearing that Storm advised their clients to take which is/was the real issue. Stand in front of an oncoming train and you are going to get totaled. So who is at fault? You for standing in front of the train or the train running merrily along its tracks minding its own business?

I was going to make a submission along those lines to the Parliamentary Committee but came to the conclusion that that is not what they wish to hear. You cannot put brains into a monument aka Committees of Inquiry (dumb buggers cannot even get their definitions correct.).