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No Ordinary Duck
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So
How are you going to Manage the trade.
Meaning day to day from entry now to exit.
What will you do if the price falls slowly or fast
The price rises---slowly or fast
How did you determine position size?
Are you running a stop--if so how will you manage that
Just for interest I'm running a marked up chart on these 2 (my notes)
And make comments on the chart daily as in management.
Once you close one or both I'll post it if you like.
Got a chance to put the new guidelines / rules into practice today with two stocks added to portfolio in the Resource / Mining sector.
By the way, thank you everyone for your contributions for keeping me on the right track and as Boggo mentioned earlier, I don't take any suggestions / advice as criticism.
1. Staying away from the hottie to pick up the ugly duckling...
The first stock is in the resource sector with Lithium exposure. This commodity has been getting a fair amount of attention and media coverage due to Lithium Ion batteries used in so many devices such as mobile phones and power tools and with the latest demand coming from electric vehicles.
I came across a few stocks with exposure to Lithium and was weighing between two of them: Lithium Australia FPO (LIT) and Neometals Ltd (NMT). So here is where the rubber meets the road as to following the adaptations to the rules as mentioned above. Without new rules or further investigation LIT would have been the choice. It's the hot pick (rumor has it, share price doubled in the last 3 trading days from 7.5c to 16c currently). Also got the looks... I mean the name, the lower price and everyone's attention with huge volume traded. But rules are rules so I am going with the higher priced stock NMT at 30c. Details of the story below...
Bit more of the in-depth analysis for the above choice. Looking beyond the surface shows LIT is a bit complicated with the recent bid for Lepidico Ltd (LPD) so not sure how involved... I mean how much of LPD has been acquired so far... Also given the share price has rocketed up in the last few days, I am not comfortable buying at current levels. With NMT, it's been a quiet achiever in my opinion. Has negotiated off-take negotiations at Mt Marion Lithium with Ganfeng Lithium Co. and started production recently. Has ~ $53m cash and ~$16m investments and receivables so that should address the debt/cash burn concerns in the rules. Has good liquidity to get in/out for small parcels of shares like mine. It's not a single commodity play either as it has diversification with a Titanium resource in development phase as well. Also the founders still have a significant stake and directorships in the company. That's the "Reed" family and NMT was called "Reed Resources" back in the day. Got surprised to see that it has paid dividends two times last year too, which is unusual for a small resource company.
2. Getting some exposure to Gas / LNG
With a fair bit of media coverage about the East Coast gas supply shortages and Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) getting a bit of attention of late, I've been on the lookout for companies with exposure to this sector. The easier way for me would be to buy a Oil/Gas giant like WPL or STO and see if there is any upside there... Well, this is supposed to be my speculative portfolio not some blue chip portfolio. Looked at a lot of oil/gas hopefuls and most of what I came across don't have anything big. Just drilling holes looking for the next oil/gas play and burning through cash. Today I came across Liquified Natural FPO (LNG) which has gapped up on big volume last Wednesday 5th of July. So just wanted to find out if there was a story to this. It happens to be due to securing funding for it's Magnolia LNG project, a whopping 1.5 billion! Which bank can I get that from ?
There is a cash pot of ~$50m in the bank according to last reported figures, so that addresses cash at hand / debt issues. Especially with the funding news liquidity seems to be plentiful so I should not have any problem exiting at or very close to market prices if I need to.
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Well the old saying goes something like this " A mine is just a hole with a Liar on top "One of the stats I saw way back when, was that out of 1,000 greenfields exploration projects, 1 will be a successful project and be able to transition to mining.
The majority of those speculative miners/explorers just mine the pockets of mum and dad investors. Having worked in the industry and knowing how these companies operate makes me want to run for the hills!
The majority of those speculative miners/explorers just mine the pockets of mum and dad investors. Having worked in the industry and knowing how these companies operate makes me want to run for the hills!
My biggest advice would be to look at track records of management and the exploration team. Quality exploration outfits will normally in turn select good projects and ground to explore.Totally get this, I've been burnt a quite few times during the mining boom chasing exploration companies who has promised to be the next big miner and not becoming one. I've held on for years with hopes of a turnaround in fortunes but too many times have seen them disappear bankrupt along with my investment.
So it's been a boom for Australia and some of the lucky few. Not for me, let me explain. I'll be honest and say although I have made a few gains on picking the right explorer that has become a miner therefore good gains along the way, most of the picks have been duds with huge promises that has not delivered. Overall I am down if I consider all of my exploration/mining/mining services picks. So looking back now and re-evaluating now, I would have been better off if I stayed away from the mining sector altogether right through the boom. I don't beat myself up though; the country was going through a once in a lifetime mining boom and it's easy to get attracted to try and have a small slice of it.
With the help of contributors like yourself I have changed my strategies and even with the mining picks in this portfolio I have picked the higher priced / slightly bigger capped (still small caps) / more liquid juniors and will monitor them pedantically. If things aren't going according to plan, I will sell out of the positions given they have the liquidity to get out.
This doesn't make sense. You trade like a newbie yet have all those experiences above to learn from.In the past have tried all sorts of systems, methods, indicators on all sorts of instruments such as stocks, Forex, indexes, commodities etc etc. I was so deep in this stuff that towards the end I was coding my own indicators, automated robots, black box systems and hosting the automated bots (robots that is) on VPS (Virtual Private Servers) all over the net such that I (my robots) would never miss a trade even if the whole country had a blackout. Sorry about the brag but chances are if there is another gizmo, I probably would have tried it out already, but it does not mean I wouldn't have a look at it. The one thing I learnt from all of this full on in-depth obsession for years and years is that all systems can work for a while if the market obeys by the rules that the system is based on. But the market is free to do what it wants!
I think you might be on the money on this one. Some of the momentum stocks you've mentioned have run up hard and would've returned exceptional results in a very short time too.Personally I think you'll have a great deal of difficulty turning a profit attempting to analyse smalls in this speculative portfolio.
I know your fundamentally based
But finding momentum
Hopping on board and getting off it when it stops
I have found to be successful.
You have to get what you can when the market gives it to you
And not sit there waiting for it.
Particularly if it's going South.
Just sayin.
Yes I have tried all sorts of short term strategies, automation, day trading etc etc. Experience was valuable sweating it out day and night but I didn't make the money to show for it. Made a bit but probably peanuts for the hours I was putting in. Even with robots it's not set and forget and count how much money it's made. They can quickly rack up losses when market conditions change and sometimes there is headaches with technical glitches and broker cheats (mysteriously widening spreads etc) to deal with.This doesn't make sense. You trade like a newbie yet have all those experiences above to learn from.
For one, assess your entry price. For example (and I don't know it all by using hindsight) your entry price for LNG. That stock caught my attention too and the 'impulsive' trading action would be to buy on the news. Low success entry point in my experience. Same with the impulsive action of buying bad news thinking of catching a bounce or 'believe' the price is cheap. They are high risk examples and can be traded but you must be willing to kill the trade immediately it goes against you. With LNG you waited till the 11th before buying and it appears you believed from the previous trading day rise there was goiung to be continuation to the spike highs. You bought intraday mid range and look at what traders did on that day. They sold which is indicated by the price spiking higher to previous resistance points (69c - 70 c) and closed way lower on above average volume. The ensuing price action "confirmed" traders were no longer bullish and you still hold.Do you have any suggestions?
Good Technical Analysis I must say.For one, assess your entry price. For example (and I don't know it all by using hindsight) your entry price for LNG. That stock caught my attention too and the 'impulsive' trading action would be to buy on the news. Low success entry point in my experience. Same with the impulsive action of buying bad news thinking of catching a bounce or 'believe' the price is cheap. They are high risk examples and can be traded but you must be willing to kill the trade immediately it goes against you. With LNG you waited till the 11th before buying and it appears you believed from the previous trading day rise there was goiung to be continuation to the spike highs. You bought intraday mid range and look at what traders did on that day. They sold which is indicated by the price spiking higher to previous resistance points (69c - 70 c) and closed way lower on above average volume. The ensuing price action "confirmed" traders were no longer bullish and you still hold.
We can't get it right every time but don't buy when the bulls are selling and look for signs before.
Hope that is understandable.
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