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Shooters in national parks

:D happy to put that kitchen on that "Awesome" dinghy to work :D......

mind you a spit roast on an island beach sounds pretty funky actually ........

have spit will travel :cool:

Thinking spit roast on Champagne beach on the West side of Gun Island might be the go? Boys trip in late October Nun ... will give you the heads up once organised.
 
We could decimate the Sooty Tern population while we are at it ! Picture is of fur seal on Champagne Beach .. if you look real hard you can see the boats in the background.
 

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I'm not up to speed on the bill, but this seems like a stupid idea. Who wants to walk around the national park when there are bullets flying? All I can say is good luck fighting the greens on this.

"I Shoot and I Vote". As a licensed shooter in NSW; a member of the Sporting Shooters Association Australian (SSAA); and being from the country, I can see the merit of shooters being granted permission (or special permits) to shoot feral species in National Parks in general or National Parks where feral species are a problem.

However I can also see the danger to other non-shooting members of the public, enjoying their right to wander arround the national parks.

Maybe a compromise would be in order, say, certain days of the month or year where the parks are closed for culling of feral species by permit holders?
 
I know many shooters and many greens. I've met some from greenpeace as well.

I find greenpeacers the most aggressive followed by the greens.

The shooters are the most sensible and have a surprising interest in ecology and sustainability of flora and fauna, and animals of all types.

Its an upside down world.

gg
 
Reason I was going on about introduced species in the Shooters party Bill.

"The Shooters Party has tabled a bill in the NSW Parliament today that could see foreign animals and birds introduced to private land for recreational shooting.

The NSW Game and Feral Animal Control Amendment Bill allows the establishment of private game parks, and permits their operators to introduce bird species that don't already exist in the state."

As birds and other animals do not know that the boundary ends at that fenceline........

So dheads they remain. By the way, the 303 is so passe try this number instead:


Ernest had the right idea.

There are no species listed which are not already in private hands in NSW. Appropriate fencing will keep the animals in, as happens now. I think to many people are believing what the animal liberationists have been spouting to the media, most of which they have made up.:banghead:

As for the shooting in national parks, this has been happening in NSW state forests for 3 years without any of the stories the animal liberationists have imagined happening. Only parks with very few visitors are opened and even then there are usually large areas, which are the most accessible parts are exclusion areas where hunting is not allowed. Hunters don't want bushwalkers tramping through scaring animals, and the feral animals avoid the usual use areas. Bob carr doubled the area of national parks while he was premier, and many of these are rarely visited. The NPWS budget for pest control has not been increased the same and the pests are taking over, destroying our native animals and the parks they live in. Using trained and qualified Game Council Conservation Hunters pest control is done for free by volunteers. The proposed system for national parks is the same as the one operating in state forests and it is not open slather. There are many hoops to jump through before you can book a section of forest to hunt in.

This bill also does not automatically open any parks to hunting when passed. It gives the environment minister the ability to open parks they see fit and list pest animals which can be shot in each location.
 
"I Shoot and I Vote". As a licensed shooter in NSW; a member of the Sporting Shooters Association Australian (SSAA); and being from the country, I can see the merit of shooters being granted permission (or special permits) to shoot feral species in National Parks in general or National Parks where feral species are a problem.

However I can also see the danger to other non-shooting members of the public, enjoying their right to wander arround the national parks.

Maybe a compromise would be in order, say, certain days of the month or year where the parks are closed for culling of feral species by permit holders?

I agree with most you say, but do you know how the system works now in state forests. Very limited parks will be opened and within those parks only some area will be avaiable to hunters.
 
I agree with most you say, but do you know how the system works now in state forests. Very limited parks will be opened and within those parks only some area will be avaiable to hunters.

As well as being a licensed shooter, i am a licensed angler. I like to fish the rocks however access to some popular locations has been restricted by the closure of national parks to the public. We try to work arround the problems through the formal channels. Eventually, i hope, sane heads will prevail.
 
"I Shoot and I Vote". As a licensed shooter in NSW; a member of the Sporting Shooters Association Australian (SSAA); and being from the country, I can see the merit of shooters being granted permission (or special permits) to shoot feral species in National Parks in general or National Parks where feral species are a problem.

However I can also see the danger to other non-shooting members of the public, enjoying their right to wander arround the national parks.

Maybe a compromise would be in order, say, certain days of the month or year where the parks are closed for culling of feral species by permit holders?

There is a simple solution to this problem.

Shooters are alocated a specific area. A "beacon" is setup in the centre of this zone. Shooters must stay within a certain distance from this beacon. Other people in the park can access the location of the beacon via there gps. A specified distance from that beacon in all directions is unsafe for them to walk in.

Problem solved.
 
There is a simple solution to this problem.

Shooters are alocated a specific area. A "beacon" is setup in the centre of this zone. Shooters must stay within a certain distance from this beacon. Other people in the park can access the location of the beacon via there gps. A specified distance from that beacon in all directions is unsafe for them to walk in.

Problem solved.

Further to this, shooters should only be allowed in the parks during off seasons, i.e not xmas or easter. In fact winter is ideal time, and when the brats are back at school.
 
We can go over to the Islands (read National Marine Park) and shoot some baby seals before breakfast. Should be fun !
TS, I know you are probably just being 'funny', and I know I will be labelled soppy and silly, but I'd be really grateful if you could not post stuff like this.

You don't have to take any notice of me, of course, but it's a sincere request.
 
Any of those suggestion are unnecessary as hunters will only be in the least accessible parts of the least used parks. Feral animals avoid contact with people in most cases, so hunters will not want to hunt in popular areas. The danger has also been overrated as all hunters licensed to be in state forest will ensure their target before fireing and have a backstop behind the animal.

Stopping hunting during peak tourist periods over Christmas does have some merritt as these are high use times and it is more likely bushwalkers will venture into the more remote areas. In Victoria where many national parks are open to hunters they do this and stop hunting from Dec to Feb. The rest of the year it is completely unregulated all you nee to do is pay your $44 for a deer licence and you can hunt any of several national parks anywhere including the Alpine National Park with no regulation or other controls. The system in NSW entails more licensing and testing as well as limited areas open to hunters. Hunters also can't just go hunting where you like you have to make a booking which only allows about 1 hunter per 1000 acres.
 
Any of those suggestion are unnecessary as hunters will only be in the least accessible parts of the least used parks. Feral animals avoid contact with people in most cases, so hunters will not want to hunt in popular areas. The danger has also been overrated as all hunters licensed to be in state forest will ensure their target before fireing and have a backstop behind the animal.

Stopping hunting during peak tourist periods over Christmas does have some merritt as these are high use times and it is more likely bushwalkers will venture into the more remote areas. In Victoria where many national parks are open to hunters they do this and stop hunting from Dec to Feb. The rest of the year it is completely unregulated all you nee to do is pay your $44 for a deer licence and you can hunt any of several national parks anywhere including the Alpine National Park with no regulation or other controls. The system in NSW entails more licensing and testing as well as limited areas open to hunters. Hunters also can't just go hunting where you like you have to make a booking which only allows about 1 hunter per 1000 acres.

I realise this, but people will wander into very remote areas, and if someone does, by a quark of fate get shot, then imagine the uproar.better to cover all avenues of escape, and put the onus back on the non-shooters. :D
 
TS, I know you are probably just being 'funny', and I know I will be labelled soppy and silly, but I'd be really grateful if you could not post stuff like this.

You don't have to take any notice of me, of course, but it's a sincere request.

Consider your sincere request granted Madam Julia !
 
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