Shooters in national parks

[Fishbulb]

Mate, indigenous people have got more in common with shooters and fisherpeople than all the basket weavers in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide.

They often are kin.

Work together.

Play together.

The basket weavers are the problem not the answer.

gg

I totally agree..and I live in Melb.

City people simply have no idea whatsoever. Reality is far removed. Take down their infrastructure and they'll wander around like zombies looking for a power outlet for the coffee machine.

 

[Trembling Hand]

City people simply have no idea whatsoever. Reality is far removed. Take down their infrastructure and they'll wander around like zombies looking for a power outlet for the coffee machine.

Silly generalisation there.

Mate, indigenous people have got more in common with shooters and fisherpeople than all the basket weavers in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide.

The basket weavers are the problem not the answer.

gg

GG when was the last time you slummed it in the bush?

 

[Fishbulb]

Silly? Really? Once again I have failed.

 

[Julia]

Shooters and fishermen and women have rights too.

You city bound people should not comment on issues beyond basket weaving.

gg

I don't think I've ever known anyone else who can make such an outrageous statement, yet still cause me to fall about with laughter.

Good evening dumb and stupid PEOPLE.

I read this and thought, what stupid people the people that posted before me,
the dills that will flap their jaws BOFORE knowing what they are even talking about !

I honestly thought my fellow Australia would have had far more brains than to do such a stupid thing.

Now before the dumb and stupid attack me, reread the first post which you all can running in for with your un eductated and dumb comments,

"I'm not up to speed on the bill, but this seems like a stupid idea"

NOT UP TO SPEED ....... ??????
AND it would appear so are the other posters before me.

Sick, maybe sad what people will write without knowing what the bl...dy hell they are even writing about ot the facts of the situation
UB

OH, my God
where do they come from ?

"These dheads, which includes politicians, have not learnt from history that is exactly why we now have fox problems, wild pigs, feral cats and dogs and the like in National Parks"

foxes to pigs........ did the law say ANYTHING about these creatures ?

GO AWAY AND READ a bit before being silly like Comrade Goon

Uncle Barry, I wonder why you can't disagree with people without being insulting and plain rude?

Maybe expressing your disagreement and then explaining more clearly than you have your own view of what should or should not happen would be more constructive, and certainly more mature.

And Joe has offered an excellent thread on the use of the QUOTE function.
If you were to read this and put the suggestions into practice it would render your posts less difficult to read.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

GG when was the last time you slummed it in the bush?

Mate, people in the bush do not "slum it".

This is exactly the mindthink that folk who live outside of the major cities abhor.

I live in the bush. I travel in the bush. I fish and hunt in the bush or on the sand or reef. I fly over the bush, admittedly preferably in business or first, although rarely in a heli ( don't like one bolt between me and Michael Jackson).

I get my weather forecasts from locals and birds animals and insects, not from AL GORE or some other useless SOB who caters for the city folks angst about life.

May I ask you when your present basket will be fully weaved?

gg

 

[Uncle Barry]

Dear Julia.
My dear yours is a odd kind of post.

You add nothing except to find fault in the poster, and nothing about the claim/s from the first poster.

More mature, I will try in the future, but at 66 years old, should I really try, just for you, when I don't even know you ?

"and then explaining more clearly than you have your own view of what should or should not happen"

I thought after seening the silly same posters posting the same non thinking material and not even reading what the situation about, why bother going into very much detail, as you will be only fired at, the detail, there is enough to write a PHD on the subject but why bother ?

My dear, I seem to remember I got into trouble with yourself a while ago, because simply I didn't quote correctly, I should have used the quote button of something, to keep you happy
(which at the time caused a huge smile on my face)

Well, maybe its better to just leave it all with you, thanks for your time.

Kind regards,
UB

 

[Trembling Hand]

May I ask you when your present basket will be fully weaved?

gg

GG unfortunately I'm to busy to finish the basket. After all someone has to do some real work and pay taxes to support all the subsidised services in the bush. Including your overpaid rangers that have to replace all the park signs that the red necks shoot up each weekend when they get a skin full.

 

[nunthewiser]

I dont know if this fits in with the original intention of this thread but ....

any of you guys seen the damage feral goats do ?

they destroy EVERYTHING in there paths , wipe out all the native vegatation.

they dont read national park signs so tend to wipe them out also

shoot em all i say

baste every 30/40 mins with some garlic and hoisin sauce and maybe a lil lemon juice , whilst stuffing the belly cavity with whole onions and capsicums and a bit more garlic ......whilst roasting on a spit over a nice bed of coals

 

[Prospector]

Hell, and I thought the gun lobby in the US was crazy. Pest control is entirely different from recreational shooting; or do we need to pick up our shotguns when checking into National Parks for fear of a rampaging boar heading up the walkway lest it reduce me

with sh...running down the back of your legs

Yep, that happened to me just last week, there was this 200 kilo wild boar came bearing down on me when walking through the National Forest.

C'mon, the worst thing that happened in a National Forest recently was that silly Victorian Politician getting lost. Wild boars rampaging, where is the rofl smilie. And oh yeah, those goats sure pack a punch!

Anger management might be a good thing too. Angry people in favour of guns scare me much more than rampaging boars.

 

[Judd]

Lot of unnecessary anger on this thread.

I've got friends who own farms close National Parks. Have heard and seen the devastation that ferals can do to livestock. My view is farmers have every right to blast the darn things out of existence. Also seen what happened to a friend's livestock when houses close to his farm didn't keep their friggin dogs inside while the owners were at work. They just surge in a pack to kill for the thrill and nothing more. Again he has every right in my opinion to flame both the dogs and the owners if he can get away with it.

I have absolutely no objection to professional shooters being engaged to cull ferals, be they goats, pigs, cats, dogs, scrubbers or whatever in National Parks. It is necessary task and a worthy one.

I do object to recreational shooting in these areas or releasing of introduced wildlife in private parks for hunting purposes. Use the weapons at the butts and prove that you are worthy of a place on the Role at Bisley but keep the huntin', shootn' out of National Parks. You're not needed there.

 

[Joe Blow]

Just a reminder to all that these debates do not have to degnerate into personal attacks.

Stick to the issues and don't succumb to the temptation of calling people names or using obscenities.

It will make me cranky. And that's not a good thing.

Carry on.

 

[Prospector]

I have absolutely no objection to professional shooters being engaged to cull ferals, be they goats, pigs, cats, dogs, scrubbers or whatever in National Parks. It is necessary task and a worthy one.

I do object to recreational shooting in these areas or releasing of introduced wildlife in private parks for hunting purposes. Use the weapons at the butts and prove that you are worthy of a place on the Role at Bisley but keep the huntin', shootn' out of National Parks. You're not needed there.

Yup, exactly.

 

[So_Cynical]

NSW has approximately 6.5 million hectares of National park land...The Sporting Shooters
Association of Australia NSW branch has approximately 36000 members.

So one shooter for every 1805 hectares or so....assuming 1 out off 10 shooters at any
given time....hardly an issue at all.

 

[Prospector]

NSW has approximately 6.5 million hectares of National park land...The Sporting Shooters
Association of Australia NSW branch has approximately 36000 members.

So one shooter for every 1805 hectares or so....assuming 1 out off 10 shooters at any given time....hardly an issue at all.

I think the 'locals' are a little concerned about this:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26023855-5006784,00.html
THE residents of Hill Top need no reminding of the "bullets for votes" deal that has flourished under the NSW Labor government. It is there, in the picturesque Southern Highlands, that a government often reliant on the support of the Shooters Party to pass legislation has agreed to build a giant new $5 million shooting complex.

About 1000ha of national park, popular with bushwalkers, has been annexed for the development: a series of rifle, pistol and shotgun ranges that will accommodate thousands of shooters from the state's south, and probably the military, too. And for Jodie Laing, from the Hill Top Residents Action Group, concerns about the project have only deepened in the six months since it passed muster with NSW Planning Minister Kristina Keneally.

A modification application has recently been submitted to Ms Keneally's office that would allow, among other things, the storage of firearms, ammunition and black powder during special events -- on a site with no permanent security, no perimeter fence, as requested by police, and sits in a bushfire-prone region.

Fortunately, the Shooters party were denied the opportunity to shoot native animals, BUT this is why they are refusing to support the Government on other non-related Bills:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/minister-sidelined-in-police-pay-talks-20090826-ezta.html
The party has refused to agree to help the Government pass legislation after its bill allowing some shooting of native animals in national parks was defeated in the last session of Parliament.

So, give the Shooters want they want or they refuse to support the Government on other, entirely different legislation. Nothing like holding a gun to their heads.

 

[knocker]

I dont know if this fits in with the original intention of this thread but ....

any of you guys seen the damage feral goats do ?

they destroy EVERYTHING in there paths , wipe out all the native vegatation.

they dont read national park signs so tend to wipe them out also

shoot em all i say

baste every 30/40 mins with some garlic and hoisin sauce and maybe a lil lemon juice , whilst stuffing the belly cavity with whole onions and capsicums and a bit more garlic ......whilst roasting on a spit over a nice bed of coals

I agree about the goats, but have not really seen any feral ones in Australia. Plenty here in the Algarve though. I 've tried them and the meat is a bit tough. But is a nice meal with a case of SAGRES. cheers buddy

 

[knocker]

Hell, and I thought the gun lobby in the US was crazy. Pest control is entirely different from recreational shooting; or do we need to pick up our shotguns when checking into National Parks for fear of a rampaging boar heading up the walkway lest it reduce me

Yep, that happened to me just last week, there was this 200 kilo wild boar came bearing down on me when walking through the National Forest.

C'mon, the worst thing that happened in a National Forest recently was that silly Victorian Politician getting lost. Wild boars rampaging, where is the rofl smilie. And oh yeah, those goats sure pack a punch!

Anger management might be a good thing too. Angry people in favour of guns scare me much more than rampaging boars.

Well luv you must lead a protected existence the, because they are definitely out there and not very hard to find.

 

[Prospector]

Well luv you must lead a protected existence the, because they are definitely out there and not very hard to find.

Wot, crazy gun lobbyists or wild boars. : Nope, not protected, but certainly none within 400 k's of Adelaide. Maybe in the Flinders Ranges up north.

 

[knocker]

Wot, crazy gun lobbyists or wild boars. : Nope, not protected, but certainly none within 400 k's of Adelaide. Maybe in the Flinders Ranges up north.

No true, only Hill Billies there ROFLMAO

 

[trainspotter]

I dont know if this fits in with the original intention of this thread but ....

any of you guys seen the damage feral goats do ?

they destroy EVERYTHING in there paths , wipe out all the native vegatation.

they dont read national park signs so tend to wipe them out also

shoot em all i say

baste every 30/40 mins with some garlic and hoisin sauce and maybe a lil lemon juice , whilst stuffing the belly cavity with whole onions and capsicums and a bit more garlic ......whilst roasting on a spit over a nice bed of coals

I'm coming to your place for dinner ! I'll have the kangaroo tail soup for entree' as well.

 

[Prospector]

No true, only Hill Billies there ROFLMAO

Actually, the main creatures we cull in SA are Koalas! They are pests on Kangaroo Island. And have singificant disease and are eating themselves out of the vegetation they eat. They are injected though, not shot at.