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Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

Considering the latest news, do you believe Schapelle Corby is innocent?

  • No, not any more

    Votes: 49 13.0%
  • No, never have

    Votes: 184 48.7%
  • Yes, always have and still do

    Votes: 80 21.2%
  • I don't care. Show me the stocks!

    Votes: 65 17.2%

  • Total voters
    378
New York songbird's lament for Schapelle



Eamonn Duff
November 30, 2008

An American musician has gained notoriety after penning a political song about convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby. New York-based singer-songwriter Tara Hack has attracted rave reviews and 1000 hits on YouTube after releasing the track earlier this month.

Titled Saya Tidak Bersalah, I'm Not Guilty - Corby's final words before being sentenced - the song highlights her imprisonment and attacks the Australian Government and the media for their lack of support for the 31-year-old Queenslander.

It includes the lyrics: "She touched down, she didn't get far/ she got framed in Denpasar/ she planned to stay at a fine hotel, but her stay in Bali turned into hell/ take two weeks on a fine vacation, spend nine hours in interrogation/ a one-way ticket straight to heaven, she won't get out until she's 47."

Hack, described by US music website Top40-charts.com as a "highly acclaimed indie-pop artist", said: "I hope that in even the smallest way this song helps to bring awareness to Schapelle's horrific situation. I hope it is a tiny step to give Schapelle back the voice that was so cruelly and unjustly stripped from her."

Corby was thrust into the US spotlight in June last year following the screening of a documentary titled Ganja Queen on HBO, filmed during Corby's 2005 trial.

When a longer two-part version was screened in Australia, it reignited debate about Corby's guilt or innocence, largely due to convicted drug smuggler Malcolm McCauley, who said he knew the truth. McCauley was arrested in November 2005 when a police raid on his Adelaide home uncovered evidence of trafficking and pictures of him visiting Corby in jail. He served 15 months for his part in transporting 100 kilograms of cannabis to Queensland.

In an exclusive interview with The Sun-Herald, McCauley said Corby's late father Mick had been the Queensland-based recipient of his drugs since 2000. He spoke of a "well-oiled machine", involving Mick Corby and Bali airport security personnel.


http://www.smh.com.au/news/technolo...t-for-schapelle/2008/11/29/1227979822025.html
 
New York songbird's lament for Schapelle

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaldQElRyg
embedded :-
"Saya Tidak Bersalah" (I'm Not Guilty)

don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger here lol ;) Here's what the poster of that youtube says in explanation :-

True life story of an Australian womens wrongful imprisonment in Indonesia. Schapelle Corby was traveling to Bali Oct 8th 2004 with her friends and a family member,to celebrate her sisters 30th birthday. One last vacation before having to care for her father who had become ill with cancer.In between Sydney and Bali 4.2 kg of marijuana was found in a clear plastic bag in an unlocked piece of her luggage. The same morning Schapelle flew,custom agents at the Sydney airport were busted trying to smuggle cocaine.

Schapelle had flown out of two airports that day, and had passed all the security checkpoints at the Brisbane airport.Schapelle was than illegally interrogated for 9 hours after 13 hours of travel. Indonesian courts refused to test the drugs for fingerprints, DNA, or country of origin, they later burned the evidence without ever checking.

Schapelle tested negative for drugs. In a country were drug trafficking is punishable by death, you think she would have had a fair trail. The value of the drugs in Australia is 40,000 while the value of drugs in Indonesia is only worth 10,000 she has no motive. Schapelle Corby was stripped of her basic human rights,the right to equal treatment under the law and to the due process of law including the right to a fair trial,and to the presumption of innocent until proven guilty,.

The judge handling her trial had admitted to never acquitting a defendent in over 500 drug cases.The president of Indonesia comments on the need to "send a warning to other Australians" even before a verdict is announced. Schapelle at 27 years old,was sentenced to spend 20 years in a dirt floored prison cell. She will miss out on the best years of her life unless something is done

Tara Hack I'm not Guilty Lyrics:

Did you ever hear the one about poor Schapelle
She's locked away in a prison cell
She went to Bali on a holiday
Little did she know she'd be forced to stay
Her trip turned out to be a real drag
When they found 4 kilos in a plastic bag
The truth she told she starts to wonder
She gets no help from the government down under

Welcome to Indonesia
They're always glad to see ya
They'll show their appreciation
By giving you a permanent vacation

She touched down, she didn't get far
She got framed in Denpasar
She planned to stay at a fine hotel
But her stay in Bali turned into hell
Take two weeks on a fine vacation
Spend nine hours in interrogation
A one-way ticket straight to heaven
She won't get out until she's forty-seven

Welcome to Indonesia
They're always glad to see ya
Go back to Queensland well rested
Just as long as you don't get arrested

Our Schapelle, Our Schapelle
She's in hell
Poor Schapelle

Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah, I'm Not Guilty

Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah, I'm Not Guilty

Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah, I'm Not Guilty

Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah
Saya Tidak Bersalah, I'm Not Guilty

Welcome to Indonesia
They're always glad to see ya
They'll show their appreciation
By giving you a permanent vacation

Welcome to Indonesia
They're always glad to see ya
Go back to Queensland well rested
Just so long as you don't get arrested

Please don't walk away.
Please don't walk away.
Please don't walk away.
Please don't walk away.
Don't walk away. Don't walk away.
 
"Saya Tidak Bersalah"
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Actually I'm particularly feelin sorry for Scott Rush (one of the Bali 9). - facing death sentence at the moment.

But interesting that three Aussie drug mules have been found guilty and charged in Australia (rather than in Indonesia) for similar offence - charge only 5 years, with non-parole of 2.5 yrs. :2twocents

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/05/2439393.htm?section=justin

Trio linked to Bali nine mastermind jailed
Posted 5 hours 4 minutes ago
Updated 5 hours 0 minutes ago

Three people with links to the Bali nine drug smuggling ringleader have been jailed for bringing heroin into Australia.

Twenty-two-year-old Shaode Cao, 25-year-old Francis Vui Jun Lee and 22-year-old Alice Yun Hsuen Yang were this afternoon convicted of two counts each of conspiring to bring prohibited imports into Australia.

Their Brisbane trial heard they took part in a drug run from Bali in 2004 under instruction of Bali nine ringleader Myuran Sukumaran and were each paid $10,000.
...
Supreme Court Justice Debra Mullins jailed each of the trio for five years with non-parole periods of two and a half years, telling them that while they may have been naive at the time, they had chosen to engage in serious criminal activity.

PS
I mean Prof Singer and Ball - who campaigned for the tobacco industry with bogus science - knowing it to be lethal - should have been charged with murder if you ask me.
 
The callous and compassionless position of so many people on this is frankly sickening. 20 years. To any right minded person that is obscene.

Maybe it is because of the smear campaign, which so many have been dumb enough to swallow. You know the one - the one depicted by this film, which mainstream media never mention: :eek:



The rest of the world can see the facts onbjectively, from outside this sphere of influence. The sham of a trial, the cruelty, and the subsequent unsubstantiated smears used to manage Australian opinion.

Just how do you think the rest of the world views Australia, in growing numbers, in the light of this? Perhaps you should ask Miss Hack. :cool:
 
In any civilised jurisdiction the destruction of evidence prior to the determination of all proceeding including appeals would lead to release without conviction. Proper forensic examination of the bag may well have painted a very different picture.

Somehow we should be working to have the Rudd Government negotiate with Indonesia to have our Aussie girl returned home. I know it is not a simple as that, but proper attention needs to be given to it.

As a former cop for 30 years, a Father and Grandfather I feel extreme disgust and shame at what occured in this case. And If I did not know better I would not be surprised if some of our officials turned the other way when maybe they could have helped put all the evidence on the table. And certainly some assistance from the Attorney Generals Department to their opposite number could have made a big difference to justice in this case. As a democracy should it not be our role to show others a better path.
 
It doesn't matter if she is innocent or guilty she should not be there.
Anyone that says she deserves 20 years or finds it amusing is a moron and obviously has no first hand experience with jails or the legal system therefore waving their right to an opinion:(.
 
It doesn't matter if she is innocent or guilty she should not be there.
Anyone that says she deserves 20 years or finds it amusing is a moron and obviously has no first hand experience with jails or the legal system therefore waving their right to an opinion:(.

Have you seen the hundreds of poor addicts , whose lives and childrens lives , have been poisoned by her and her ilk.

guilty
guilty

gg
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by michael_t_f
It doesn't matter if she is innocent or guilty she should not be there.
Anyone that says she deserves 20 years or finds it amusing is a moron and obviously has no first hand experience with jails or the legal system therefore waving their right to an opinion.

Have you seen the hundreds of poor addicts , whose lives and childrens lives , have been poisoned by her and her ilk.

guilty
guilty

gg

Michael I will take it that you DO NOT HAVE young children? Or you pushed drugs at some point in your life and didn't get caught??

In complete agreement with GG.

If you wish to F''' with another countries laws OR be stupid enough to act as any 'mule'. You deserve the full force - if death - death.

If you go to a country it is not just about the cuisine or culture. You need - especially in these times- to be aware of the law
 
In any civilised jurisdiction the destruction of evidence prior to the determination of all proceeding including appeals would lead to release without conviction. Proper forensic examination of the bag may well have painted a very different picture.

As a democracy should it not be our role to show others a better path.

Explod

The problem is your dealing with a 3rd world country - a developing nation in many many ways that includes culture, religion, education and global knowledge understanding.

Yes, as Australians in a democracy - we should be a great example. You can take a horse to water though you can't make it drink ( or in some cases sip)!
 
Has anyone every contemplated what judgement would be put on an Indonesian if they were caught out ,in the same circumstances,at any Australian airport ?
Dia bersalah?
 
Has anyone every contemplated what judgement would be put on an Indonesian if they were caught out ,in the same circumstances,at any Australian airport ?
Dia bersalah?


2 years in a 5 star prison, internet, tv , air con , 3 nutritionist prepared meals a day , prayer room , 8 hours outdoors a day and ruddy would go to Indo and kiss **** and apologise for having to do this and maybe offer lower interest on the 5 billion loan ...
 
my :2twocents
We're talking pot.
Responsible for a fraction of the pain that tobacco causes. (although I hate em both).
Even if she's guilty, she doesn't deserve such a lengthy sentence - when seen in comparision with other similar crimes.
eg the tobacco companies deserve more.
Especially as they have intentionally misrepresented the truth in the advertising campaigns.

Finally - "Scientists" like Prof (sic) Fred Singer and Ball - who were on the payroll of the cigarette companies and denied any link with cancer -
should personally be charged with murder. (imo)
 
*temp hijack*
Now your name makes more sense...At first I thought you were in the demolition businees with poor typing / literary skills.
*end hijack*.


cheers,
This sort of answer is the type of posts that talk people into posting on another forum instead of ASF. The mods would do a service to Joe by moderating this type of post and suspending the poster for a few days contemplation. Abuse is not necessary and those that live in glass houses etc, etc.
 
This sort of answer is the type of posts that talk people into posting on another forum instead of ASF. The mods would do a service to Joe by moderating this type of post and suspending the poster for a few days contemplation.

I agree wholeheartedly, I do deserve a damn good banning... I am guilty of posting something off topic. You on the other hand also deserve a damn good banning for knowing better, yet still posting a rant to continue the off topic conversation.
Abuse is not necessary and those that live in glass houses etc, etc.
Who abused who?


Mods, which way to the showers?


cheers,
 
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