Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

I'd forgotten about "Hotman" and his tribe of opportunists.

She's really in the hands of the Gods.

Maybe someone should send her Philosophy 101 and a dictionary.

You would have to feel sorry for her.

Garpal

 

[The Mint Man]

For those who voted, "I dont care. show me the stocks", Its a bit silly that you even voted on the poll in the first place, which would require you to come into the General Chat forum to start with and then venture into this thread! :eek3: same goes for the mod who modified it As I said, It was posted in the correct forum after all so please explain? this is a GENERAL story that has recently re-surfaced which the public in general are interested in, if your not... then dont get involved! simple enough ay?

I have another poll in the 'stock chat' related to the market hitting 6000 points and there are only about 20 people that have had their say, yet in this thread there have been 73 and counting over just 24 hours!!!
Its fair to say that this is more popular then stocks at the moment.

Cheers

 

[Stan 101]

I just got back from a few weeks in the Golden Triangle and then a couple of days in Bangkok. I still find it hard to believe that Farangs (tourists) get caught up in drugs over there. It is so sad to see they still think they can get away with it. I was going to visit a girl in one of bangkok's prison's when I was there but to tell the truth, my heart just couldn't take it any more. She's been there near on 10 years and is hoping for a King's pardon next year. She's guilty and admits it, although she lived in self denial for a few years before she actually owned up to it. Sad thing that she could have bribed her way out of her 20 year term for a couple of thousand baht extra than what she was prepared to pay... If anyone wants a link on some westerners in Thai prisons, drop me a pm..


cheers,

 

[Stan 101]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

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[Stan 101]

Re: Please Sign *SCHAPELLE CORBY* Petition

are redneck carnies!!!!

Do they have little hands and smell of cabbage?

 

[shinobi346]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

Another trivia question. Merc is getting a bagging for smoking pot. (hope Im right with that assumption). What percentage of us have tried pot? ever? say 60%? straight away those votes are "diminished in relevance". And if we tried it once, and not again, are we in a position to judge others harshly over it - (I understand reformed smokers can head down that road). Perhaps if we didn't inhale (Clinton) ? or perhaps if we drew the line at heroin , but thought about it long and hard (Obama).
But the whole damned thing becomes a matter of relatives.
(and you can choose your city, but you can't choose your relatives )

I think the issue isn't that she smoked pot but the fact that she denied ever doing it which has now been evidently found to be a lie. If she lied about that to defend her sister what else did she lie about as well? her sisters innocence?

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

I think the issue isn't that she smoked pot but the fact that she denied ever doing it which has now been evidently found to be a lie. If she lied about that to defend her sister what else did she lie about as well? her sisters innocence?

mate, relevance of mercedes opinion?
nothing more that yours or mine!
and I for one wont be voting until we "define our terms".
innocent of smoking dope? - almost certainly not.
innocent of knowing about previous shipments - maybe not again.
innocent of knowingly trying to import on this occasion - who knows??
and by the way ,
IF she is covering for one of her siblings, (again - pure speculation, but so too is everyone's opinion here) then - in my mind , that is honourable.!

And what miss-what's-her-name did is not honourable. (financial gain for dobbing in a friend with whom she had stayed whilst in Bali etc).

maybe the stuff was supposed to be taken off at Brisbane? - is that so unlikely? - fairly common practice we were told. I'm sure there are other relevant counter-arguments.

By the way I haven't watched miss-what's-her-name on either of her paid performances over recent days. Just read about it.

 

[wayneL]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

mate, relevance of mercedes opinion?
nothing more that yours or mine!
and I for one wont be voting until we "define our terms".
innocent of smoking dope? - almost certainly not.
innocent of knowing about previous shipments - maybe not again.
innocent of knowingly trying to import on this occasion - who knows??
and by the way ,
IF she is covering for one of her siblings, (again - pure speculation, but so too is everyone's opinion here) then - in my mind , that is honourable.!

And what miss-what's-her-name did is not honourable. (financial gain for dobbing in a friend with whom she had stayed whilst in Bali etc).

maybe the stuff was supposed to be taken off at Brisbane? - is that so unlikely? - fairly common practice we were told. I'm sure there are other relevant counter-arguments.

Good post... and especially agree with what I have bolded.

 

[mrWoodo]

I've got a feeling the family, friends, etc. have all been lying. Mercedes is coming out now to try and distance herself from this whole saga before it blows up in her face.

Re. foreigners and drugs in Asia - Just read "The Damage Done" by Warren Fellows. That will put you off EVER going near drugs in Asia! Couldn't put it down, read it in a day.

 

[2020hindsight]

hey Wayne, I especially agree with the following quote I read somewhere, also in bold
Never in the field of credit history, was so much, owed by so many, to so few.
and on that score, I plead 110% guilty

 

[2020hindsight]

I've got a feeling the family, friends, etc. have all been lying. Mercedes is coming out now to try and distance herself from this whole saga before it blows up in her face.

Re. foreigners and drugs in Asia - Just read "The Damage Done" by Warren Fellows. That will put you off EVER going near drugs in Asia! Couldn't put it down, read it in a day.

I'll try to read your book mate. Not that I need convincing believe me.

Hypothetical question - Is it possible to stay away from drugs in SE Asia?

Woodo, I tell you seriously mate, I know of a girl who was with a bloke and they were one of three couples - on a beach in SE Asia - and the police wandered up and inspected their wallets, - in the process, planted drugs in one - they were warned by the old lady who hired them beach chairs, checked, found the offending produce, buried it in the sand - police apprehanded them yet again on some pretext as they left - and ... were really pissed off when they couldn't find the evidence they'd left there. Ironical thing was, they were there on some Christian fellowship thing - seriously religious types.

That was a moslem country, but I've also seen it in Christian countries in that region. A local sold a yachtee some dope on one corner, and just around the bend he was apprended (by a policeman looking for all the world like the dopeseller's twin brother) and caught - nothin that some graft couldn't get him out of on that occasion.

 

[wayneL]

A local sold a yachtee some dope on one corner, and just around the bend he was apprended (by a policeman looking for all the world like the dopeseller's twin brother) and caught - nothin that some graft couldn't get him out of on that occasion.

And resold the same dope again no doubt. At least they're into recycling.

 

[forexgame]

we can say anything if it doesn't touch us personally....

 

[Knobby22]

The one good thing that has come out of the Schappelle and the Bali 9 is that it may have saved some young foolish people ruining their lives acting as couriers for druglords.

 

[transit]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

I think the biggest argument to this is why would you try and smuggle 4kg of weed in a huge see through plastic bag through 2 airports (Brisbane & Sydney) with all the security and risk of detection when you could just drive it down in your car. See point #7.

...maybe the stuff was supposed to be taken off at Brisbane? - is that so unlikely? - fairly common practice we were told. I'm sure there are other relevant counter-arguments.

Taken from The Age

10 pieces of evidence that went against her:

1. The vacuum-sealed marijuana was in a boogie board bag that Corby admitted owning.

2. Customs official Gusti Nyoman Winata said he asked Corby to open the bag, but she unzipped only a front pocket. "When I opened it a bit, she said: 'No'," Mr Winata said. "I asked: 'Why?', and she said: 'I have some,' and looked confused." Mr Winata added that she blocked his hand to stop him opening the main zip.

3. Corby disputed Mr Winata's version, but there was no CCTV system in operation to support her denial.

4. A second customs official said Corby admitted owning the drugs.

5. Corby failed to notice the bag's extra weight. Her excuse was that the bag's handle had been broken on the way to Bali, meaning she had to drag it.

6. While Australian baggage handlers have since been linked to an airport cocaine-smuggling ring, which was in operation on the date Corby flew to Bali, there has never been any suggestion or evidence of them trafficking marijuana.

7. A drug dealer employing baggage handlers would be highly unlikely to smuggle four kilograms of marijuana into Brisbane airport and then into a stranger's bag, just to send it on to Sydney. Such a task would further require another handler at Sydney to sneak it out of the bag and hide it while attempting to get it out of the airport. As road haulage experts have confirmed, smugglers could avoid this by sending it by road.

8. Prosecutors claim the plastic bag was the same size and shape as the boogie board bag, suggesting it had been organised to fit, as opposed to being stuffed in by someone else, such as baggage handlers.

9. Hydroponic marijuana is highly sought after among cashed-up expatriates and tourists in Bali.

10. Had Corby been aware of the drugs and had her bag been properly secured with a padlock, there would have been no chance of her claiming that the marijuana had been planted in her bag.

 

[mrWoodo]

Woodo, I tell you seriously mate, I know of a girl who was with a bloke and they were one of three couples - on a beach in SE Asia - and the police wandered up and inspected their wallets, - in the process, planted drugs in one

When I was in uni I went over to Thailand, met up with a girl who offered me some of her dope - I asked where she bought from, response was "my police boyfriend" Needless to say, that kind of freaked me out for the rest of the night, wondering whether he'd be paying me a visit later on! I guess trying not to put yourself in the situation in the first place is the best way.

 

[2020hindsight]

The one good thing that has come out of the Schappelle and the Bali 9 is that it may have saved some young foolish people ruining their lives acting as couriers for druglords.

and how ironical that Scott Rush is included with the other two on death row. - considering his father brought the matter to the attention of the police. SURELY that can't happen.

I think the moral of THAT story is don't expect the Aus Federal Police to do anything other than pass on the info and watch you get hung.

 

[Realist]

It'll make for a good Aussie movie!!

What will the "A dingo stole my baby" catch phrase be this time.. ?

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: Schapelle Corby, Innocent or Guilty? Poll

Taken from the Age .. ten points

You (and the Age) could well be right mate -

Just another question from the peanut gallery, but were all those points known at the same time that the Age was publishing the probability that she was innocent. - way back.?

Sheesh - Jack Bauer's dad is the same actor (James Cromwell) who was the farmer in Babe - I just have trouble taking him seriously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxpbL_CvoiA organ symphony

and btw realist, suppose that your life doesn't turn out quite as smilingly as you would wish, I hope that you accept the condolences of people with empathy. - or perhaps you see humour in a dingo eating a baby?

 

[Stan 101]

Hypothetical question - Is it possible to stay away from drugs in SE Asia?

Extremeley easy my friend...Never forget that most asians are thrid world people and would never want another to go through hardship...There are always the same percentage, though.
If you look for Ganja or worse, you'll find it in a flash. Just go to Koh Pan gnang on a full moon party night to find more extacy than you need.
In Asia, you can walk up to a Pharmacy (chemist) and get whatever you want.... no questions asked. I don't take illegal substances, but the amount of toursists who hear me speaking local dialect who ask me for weed/.speed/ whatever is astonishing...If you want to smoke spliff, get a guest house in Nimbin, you'll have a better time...