Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

qldfrog · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
Care to elaborate what these particular groups are? Can't be Muslims because homosexuality is a cardinal sin..

pz99, you really need to wake up to the practises in Afghanistan or Pakistan where female being evil, young boys are dressed up, added lipstick and f*cked to oblivion by the very same pure islam followers talibans(and this has been going on for hundred of years, this is the fate of orphans there.Even liberal media used to report it.just google it
Or could it be donkey? the latest in Morroco:

http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/teens-treated-for-rabies-after-alleged-sexual-contact-with-donkey/
(I purposely did use the nypost so I can not be accused of conspiracy right wing nuts, you can find the same info in Morrocan news, with a bit of explanations as to why it is common practise
So next survey: can I marry my donkey?or dog
Anyway, I do not believe the SSM debate was brought in by the Muslim community, just another way to distract attention potentially away from that same community, while the whole population get screwed by our elites, and I do not believe we have been asked to sign a conscent(sp?) form before.
But the usual left/right makes sure we bend down, and people are surprised by Trump and Clinton a year on can still not believe she lost.How dare people do that!!Just another conspiracy obviously, all is good in the west front

qldfrog · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
People voting NO because they are concerned or if it's against their core beliefs is fine with me. What's not fine is the elitist attitude that comes with it. Someone votes YES, therefore they are inferior and are easy targets for mediscare style scare campaigns.

just replace yes by no and you got my position; I am yet to find a single media scare campaign favoring the NO?ABC, SBS, News ltd, Murdoch? Even Quantas and the life savers club want me to vote yes

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

qldfrog said:
pz99, you really need to wake up to the practises in Afghanistan or Pakistan where female being evil, young boys are dressed up, added lipstick and f*cked to oblivion by the very same pure islam followers talibans(and this has been going on for hundred of years, this is the fate of orphans there.Even liberal media used to report it.just google it
Or could it be donkey? the latest in Morroco:

http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/teens-treated-for-rabies-after-alleged-sexual-contact-with-donkey/
(I purposely did use the nypost so I can not be accused of conspiracy right wing nuts, you can find the same info in Morrocan news, with a bit of explanations as to why it is common practise
So next survey: can I marry my donkey?or dog
Anyway, I do not believe the SSM debate was brought in by the Muslim community, just another way to distract attention potentially away from that same community, while the whole population get screwed by our elites, and I do not believe we have been asked to sign a conscent(sp?) form before.
But the usual left/right makes sure we bend down, and people are surprised by Trump and Clinton a year on can still not believe she lost.How dare people do that!!Just another conspiracy obviously, all is good in the west front

Your erroneous assumption that a religion is redefined by violators is akin to saying Christianity supports pedophilia because of a handful of Catho kiddie fiddlers. That's illogical.

Thanks for using Trump and Clinton to intensify your argument... I didn't vote for either.

No, you can't marry your donkey

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

qldfrog said:
just replace yes by no and you got my position; I am yet to find a single media scare campaign favoring the NO?ABC, SBS, News ltd, Murdoch? Even Quantas and the life savers club want me to vote yes

So you didn't watch the NO ads that everyone's been talking about for weeks?

Clearly their campaign strategy isn't working then - hence the result. I stopped listening to them when they started pushing around their stoopid anti lefty wheel barrow which has nothing to do with SSM.

qldfrog · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
No, you can't marry your donkey

Not yet....

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

qldfrog said:
Not yet....

If such a survey eventuated I'd vote informally. It would be a donkey vote

qldfrog · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
So you didn't watch the NO ads that everyone's been talking about for weeks?

Actually no, I do not watch much TV and no, I have not even seen a single one that I can remember; I was away O/S during some of that time, but apart for the neverending propaganda on ABC, SBS and Brisbane Times, not much of a NO presence.
But all Australia's problems will be solved once the law is voted, what will be the next campaign? I am really worried for the mental state of that donkey discussed above.Should talk to the Green

qldfrog · 17 October 2017

qldfrog said:
Actually no, I do not watch much TV and no, I have not even seen a single one that I can remember; I was away O/S during some of that time, but apart for the neverending propaganda on ABC, SBS and Brisbane Times, not much of a NO presence.
But all Australia's problems will be solved once the law is voted, what will be the next campaign? I am really worried for the mental state of that donkey discussed above.Should talk to the Green

actually sadly they shot the donkey if I remember well... but this is definitively off topic

SirRumpole · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
If such a survey eventuated I'd vote informally. It would be a donkey vote

Most votes are these days unfortunately.

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

SirRumpole said:
Most votes are these days unfortunately.

Now we know how Tony Abbott won the 2013 election - donkey by default

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

qldfrog said:
Actually no, I do not watch much TV and no, I have not even seen a single one that I can remember; I was away O/S during some of that time, but apart for the neverending propaganda on ABC, SBS and Brisbane Times, not much of a NO presence.
But all Australia's problems will be solved once the law is voted, what will be the next campaign? I am really worried for the mental state of that donkey discussed above.Should talk to the Green

Well... hopefully the next campaign will be the next federal election that doesn't focus on SSM... which is what will happen if a NO vote wins. There are far more important issues.

Could you imagine the uproar if Bill Shorten won an election simply because Labor supports SSM ?

wayneL · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
Yep, those conspiracy theories and thankyou for expressing them so eloquently for all to see.

If you can't find your tin foil hat I'll PM you another one that you can feel free to hand around along with more dire predictions that can squeeze donations from a gullible public.

We will see, and I reserve the right to say "told ya so"

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

wayneL said:
We will see, and I reserve the right to say "told ya so"

I agree and fully respect that position

Tisme · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
Care to elaborate what these particular groups are? Can't be Muslims because homosexuality is a cardinal sin.

People voting NO because they are concerned or if it's against their core beliefs is fine with me. What's not fine is the elitist attitude that comes with it. Someone votes YES, therefore they are inferior and are easy targets for mediscare style scare campaigns.

Good Govt comes from keeping the bastards honest.

The population that don't care are the people who don't vote at all.

No they just don't care about our nation building culture of the past, they are more interested in getting on bandwagons that satiate grief stricken outcast friends rather than moving outside their comfort zone and focusing on cohesive community rather than a fragmented one that will eventually result in a mini USA of disaffected and disenfranchised haters of the parasites and elite.

Insofar as what particular groups: have a look at the various ABC pics and you will readily see which ones they are, especially the little one of the pair who invariably hangs off a daddy sized human.

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

These are the only pics I'm seeing on the ABC...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-11/ssm-same-sex-marriage-respectful-debate-ugly-side/8996500

SirRumpole · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
These are the only pics I'm seeing on the ABC...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-11/ssm-same-sex-marriage-respectful-debate-ugly-side/8996500

You lead a sheltered life.

Every time ABC TV has a piece about SSM, it's accompanied by endless video snips of blokes kissing, women holding hands, lesbians with oh so happy looking children smiling for the camera etc

It's pathetic really.

PZ99 · 17 October 2017

I don't watch the ABC or much TV at all - probably Bathurst was my last viewing.

I can do without the attempts by the media to spoonfeed me with sensationalist BS.

However I'm curious about these people who migrated here with the power to devalue our outlook on decent society. That's a new one for me.

SirRumpole · 17 October 2017

Support for Yes seems to have declined on this poll. It was running at 63%.

Kerway · 17 October 2017

Dictionaries have, for many years, defined marriage as the formalisation of a relationship between a man and a woman. This is how most religious people in the world would like it to remain, and I feel that their views should be respected. Gay people should create their own description of a union between people of the same sex. I do understand their desire to be seen in the same light as every one else, but their unions are inherently different.

Tisme · 17 October 2017

PZ99 said:
I don't watch the ABC or much TV at all - probably Bathurst was my last viewing.

I can do without the attempts by the media to spoonfeed me with sensationalist BS.

However I'm curious about these people who migrated here with the power to devalue our outlook on decent society. That's a new one for me.

Sounds like you are ill informed to judge the ABC and absence of the NO vote propaganda on the the visual media.

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?