Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

[MrBurns]

Crikey, what sort of music were you playing ? LOL

Just popular stuff, rock etc, we had regular jobs at the Arts Center Victoria, did the Lord Mayors ball etc etc, good fun...

 

[Wysiwyg]

I am not happy with the question. Should the law be changed to allow same sex couples to marry? That is an affront to multiple partner relationships. I demand group marriage be included in the question and the bias toward couples be removed. Equality forever.

 

[Tumbarumba]

It is the LGBT fanatics that will hijack same sex legislation that concerns me; using the law to force religious places to conduct ceremonies , tv stations to show equal numbers of same sex couples as conventional couples or stopping the use of terms like "conventional couples", etc. It has already happened in England following the ssm legislation there;- Read this for more.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/09/whats-changed-in-britain-since-same-sex-marriage/
or this
http://www.marriagealliance.com.au/canada_ssm_destroying_all_other_rights

 

[Wysiwyg]

That is one of the problems with a democratic society. People vote without any knowledge or forethought and hope for the best. There are a large percentage of people who simply parrot what they hear and have no inclination to think for themselves let alone research what they vote for. A single voice can easily manipulate masses of people.

 

[Tisme]

i used to play i a band in the early 70's one of our jobs was at a gay function, the sight of 2 middle aged men pashing and groping each other on the dancefloor sickens me to this day. I guess we can expect a lot more of that.

My epiphany moment was up at Hamilton Island back in the nineties with my children and wife in tow about to go for a swim and two males in speedos where rolling around sucking face on the side of the pool, both with erections. Still makes me sick in the pit of my stomache thinking about it.... worse than those horrifying half second flashes of imagining your mum and dad having it off in public. icky

Sufficed to say my children were mortified, dazed and confused, but not as much as their parents. When I analyze it I bet that is why nobody else was around.

 

[crackajack]

Marriage is a waste of time lol Why bother? Just more attention seekers. So man rooting man is going to make a family? Woman licking woman is going to make a family? get into the real world. What you do in your personal space is your own business. Make into some attention seeking exercise is a waste of time effort and money.

 

[Wysiwyg]

After watching the Sixty Minutes program on Sunday about the sex change story, I wondered if the boy was the girl mum wanted. Encouraging feminine behaviour like dressing as a female. Planting the seed which was in direct conflict with natural tendencies and then at puberty the unnatural drug taking to change the natural process.

 

[luutzu]

Yes, I concede that I have been prejudicially remiss in acknowledging your reiterations throughout perpetuity.

Never use two syllables when one would do

Imagine how much more enlightened the English-speaking world would be if Shakespeare or Freud write in ways even an idiot (like me) could understand.

 

[luutzu]

Marriage is taken.
Find another word.

There is no discrimination and they have their rights.
Legislation was put through for their civil unions.

There is no 'right' to Marriage
There is a reason Marriage is Father, Mother, Child.
It is equal.

All I see are advocates talking about rights, but no responsibilities.
No reason.

We are one nation under God.

Two consenting adults wants to get married... but since they're gay the gov't says go fark yourself.

hmmm... that's discrimination.


What's the reason marriage is "father, mother, child"? And how does that make it equal as opposed to the gay marriage with children?

Two loving parents who goes through a heck of a lot of trouble to have the kid... that's a great start in life. Two parents courageous enough to stand up against social discrimination, be themselves and are proud of it... that makes pretty dam good role models.

As to God hating gays... if He hate them so much, he wouldn't have made them. That and doesn't God have a lot of stuff to worry about?

There's nuclear war, Climate Change, pollution, famine, drought, flooding, endless wars... you'd think that having two of His creation loving one another is the least of His worries.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Two consenting adults wants to get married... but since they're gay the gov't says go fark yourself.

hmmm... that's discrimination.

Sooo, polygamy is fine with you or more than two in a marriage is an issue?

 

[luutzu]

Sooo, polygamy is fine with you or more than two in a marriage is an issue?

It's fine with me. Not sure what the wife will think of it though

I know where you're coming from. I don't see polygamy being the same as legalising same-sex marriage. There's no slippery slope that I see.

First, from a gov't point of view... marriage is legalised between two parents [currently in most god-fearing countries and all totalitarian states, it's between man and woman]... reason for this monopoly is so that Big Brother can find that runaway parent and tie child-support to them: you had the fun, it's going to cost you

That and estate, assets, taxes and welfare issues.
Have more than two partners would make it harder to divvy up the assets if one partner passes and the remaining two don't much like each other. Who gets the kids, who gets the trailer?

So the fact that it's "always" been been between a man and a woman is because God somehow said it. Then there's the science factor, adoption and surrogacy weren't hip then etc.

It's more due to tradition, religion, politics and technological blah blah.

Tradition is for old folks; religion for idiots; politics for scoundrels who swings whichever way the wind blows... anyone I haven't insulted yet?


Back on topic... it's stupid but not illegal to have extra-marital relationship. Being that kind of stupid is often a choice, being gay is not a choice.

We shouldn't penalise or demean a fellow citizen who is different, does no one any harm with their preferences. Save that kind of irrational fear and abuse for Muslims.

 

[Value Collector]

Sooo, polygamy is fine with you or more than two in a marriage is an issue?

As long as it's between consenting adults who cares.

The bible is fine with multiple wives, I imagine Tinks "Traditional marriage" she talks about includes polygamy.

 

[Wysiwyg]

It's fine with me. Not sure what the wife will think of it though

That was funny.

I know where you're coming from. I don't see polygamy being the same as legalising same-sex marriage. There's no slippery slope that I see.

Yes well I thought it was all about love and change and no one getting hurt.

We shouldn't penalise or demean a fellow citizen who is different, does no one any harm with their preferences. Save that kind of irrational fear and abuse for Muslims.

Oh yeah we love the Musies. We dress the same, pray together, eat Halal certified food together, got our own rules and gee whiz, I had a blast at the team detonation session last week.

 

[Wysiwyg]

As long as it's between consenting adults who cares.

You are my #1 forum d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.

 

[Tumbarumba]

I cannot sleep so I read all posts on this topic and it changed my opinion; The biggest threat to society is not ssm or religion or racism it is from people who are not as intelligent as they think they are.

 

[PZ99]

I cannot sleep so I read all posts on this topic and it changed my opinion; The biggest threat to society is not ssm or religion or racism it is from people who are not as intelligent as they think they are.

Agreed. Not just this thread but virtually anywhere you look you see the same thing. The community have had a chance to show that we could handle a topic with more intelligence than those clowns in parliament during question time but so far it hasn't been demonstrated has it? LOL

 

[PZ99]

The ABC vote compass thingy has similar results to our result here.

This poll was carried out between May and July last year. Around 750K responded.

Additionally they've broken down the results into each seat as follows:

Spoiler

Lowest to highest of YES %
MARANOA 42%
HINKLER 43%
FLYNN 44%
GROOM 45%
KENNEDY 46%
BLAXLAND 46%
PARKES 47%
WRIGHT 47%
CHIFLEY 47%
MCMAHON 48%
CAPRICORNIA 48%
DAWSON 48%
RANKIN 49%
GREENWAY 49%
FORDE 49%
LONGMAN 49%
WERRIWA 50%
BARKER 50%
WIDE BAY 51%
BLAIR 51%
CANNING 51%
NEW ENGLAND 51%
LYNE 51%
O'CONNOR 51%
BANKS 51%
PETRIE 52%
GREY 52%
PARRAMATTA 52%
WATSON 52%
BRADDON 52%
RIVERINA 52%
MITCHELL 52%
FOWLER 52%
CALWELL 53%
BURT 53%
MACARTHUR 53%
BOWMAN 53%
HUME 53%
DICKSON 53%
DURACK 53%
BRUCE 53%
HUGHES 54%
LINDSAY 54%
FAIRFAX 54%
COOK 54%
BONNER 54%
FADDEN 54%
FARRER 54%
WHITLAM 54%
PATERSON 55%
MURRAY 55%
HOLT 55%
LYONS 55%
LINGIARI 55%
FISHER 55%
BEROWRA 55%
CALARE 55%
OXLEY 55%
HUNTER 55%
PAGE 55%
COWPER 55%
BASS 55%
FORREST 55%
LEICHHARDT 55%
GILMORE 55%
MALLEE 55%
HASLUCK 56%
MONCRIEFF 56%
PEARCE 56%
HERBERT 56%
BENNELONG 56%
COWAN 56%
SHORTLAND 56%
GIPPSLAND 56%
MCPHERSON 56%
TANGNEY 57%
DOBELL 57%
MAKIN 57%
MORETON 57%
ROBERTSON 58%
MACQUARIE 58%
MOORE 58%
WAKEFIELD 58%
GORTON 58%
BARTON 58%
BRAND 58%
EDEN-MONARO 58%
WANNON 58%
ASTON 58%
CUNNINGHAM 59%
SCULLIN 59%
MENZIES 60%
KINGSTON 60%
BRADFIELD 60%
LALOR 60%
MACKELLAR 60%
MAYO 61%
LILLEY 61%
RICHMOND 61%
MCMILLAN 61%
FRANKLIN 61%
STURT 61%
MCEWEN 61%
REID 61%
SWAN 62%
HINDMARSH 62%
DEAKIN 62%
STIRLING 62%
BOOTHBY 63%
RYAN 63%
PORT ADELAIDE 63%
SOLOMON 63%
CHISHOLM 64%
CASEY 64%
INDI 64%
NEWCASTLE 64%
LA TROBE 64%
CORIO 64%
FREMANTLE 64%
CORANGAMITE 64%
BENDIGO 65%
FLINDERS 65%
BALLARAT 65%
HOTHAM 65%
CURTIN 66%
ADELAIDE 66%
DUNKLEY 66%
MARIBYRNONG 66%
ISAACS 67%
KINGSFORD SMITH 67%
GRIFFITH 68%
PERTH 68%
KOOYONG 68%
JAGAJAGA 68%
BRISBANE 69%
NORTH SYDNEY 69%
WARRINGAH 70%
DENISON 70%
CANBERRA 70%
FENNER 71%
GOLDSTEIN 73%
GELLIBRAND 73%
HIGGINS 74%
WILLS 75%
BATMAN 76%
GRAYNDLER 77%
WENTWORTH 78%
MELBOURNE 78%
MELBOURNE PORTS 79%
SYDNEY 79%

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-13/same-sex-marriage-support-map-vote-compass/8788978

 

[tech/a]

I cannot sleep so I read all posts on this topic and it changed my opinion; The biggest threat to society is not ssm or religion or racism it is from people who are not as intelligent as they think they are.

Which side of the argument/any argument----does this statement belong?

 

[Tisme]

I cannot sleep so I read all posts on this topic and it changed my opinion; The biggest threat to society is not ssm or religion or racism it is from people who are not as intelligent as they think they are.

Nobody is as intelliegnet as they seem. trumpet or articulate.

For me I find the debate about SSM fascinating as it seems to satisfy the various discussion we had back in the early Usenet days about the memetics and how ideas find there way into a culture which then spreads as it infects host minds.

Truth and voracity is of secondary importance to the success of the meme. SSM seems to be a great success in replication.

Riding in and announcing a new judge is in town who roundabout supports SSM only enforces the memetic prediction.

 

[overhang]

Sooo, polygamy is fine with you or more than two in a marriage is an issue?

Personally I don't think they're comparable. There is no discrimination because it's consistent across the board, regardless of race, sexuality, gender or faith no one by law can be married to multiple partners.