Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

[Tisme]

Even for you Tisme, this is a little OTT.

You seem to be losing your touch, maybe up your medication so your thoughts can become clearer again.

The meds comment is just entry level trolling that I thought would have been below your pay grade; more something bas would write when he's having one of his regular brain farts and tantrums.

Anyway you have resorted to insult which means you have nowhere to go with your logic and getting closer to sensible objectivity. This is a good thing because it draws back the blockout curtains and opens a window you shut ages ago, when you decided to create a fortress against the world..... the truth shall set you free.

 

[satanoperca]

You so easily take the bait.

 

[noirua]

Just abolish marriage. Last time I checked over 50% of marriages ended in divorce. If there is no marriage then there is no divorce.

 

[wayneL]

Just abolish marriage. Last time I checked over 50% of marriages ended in divorce. If there is no marriage then there is no divorce.

Nah, just find someone willing to put up with your shyte.

Maybe I just got lucky.

 

[bellenuit]

How so? You'd have to have to leave most of logic on the cutting room floor to come to that statement.

Because protecting religious freedom was what was promised. That is not the same as being allowed to deny others their rights because of your religious beliefs.

 

[satanoperca]

Nah, just find someone willing to put up with your shyte.

Maybe I just got lucky.

That is funny WayneL, I read that as "Maybe I just got lucky that I found someone to put up with my shyte".

 

[wayneL]

That is funny WayneL, I read that as "Maybe I just got lucky that I found someone to put up with my shyte".

You read that correctly

 

[Tisme]

You so easily take the bait.

You're the one who gets all bent out of shape and I don't care.

Wasn't it you who went all hysterical and ballistic about something that I posted, albeit true, but something you decided play Wyatt Earp with six shooters on behalf of... the gays I think it was?

 

[Tisme]

Because protecting religious freedom was what was promised. That is not the same as being allowed to deny others their rights because of your religious beliefs.

There was to be no persecution of conscientious objectors. If you look back on record you will find Malcolm stated Churches, Celebrants and Charities would be protected.

If the population knew the govt would come after freedom of choice to choose the survey results would have been different, given the NO camps could have articulated that.

 

[satanoperca]

Why are religious groups to be excluded from discriminating against others?
If average Joe is not allowed to, why is someone who believes in God allowed to?
1+1 = 2

 

[satanoperca]

You're the one who gets all bent out of shape and I don't care.

Wasn't it you who went all hysterical and ballistic about something that I posted, albeit true, but something you decided play Wyatt Earp with six shooters on behalf of... the gays I think it was?

I wish trout could be caught as easily as you.

Again, you are way way OTT.

 

[Tisme]

Why are religious groups to be excluded from discriminating against others?
If average Joe is not allowed to, why is someone who believes in God allowed to?
1+1 = 2

Because that was the guarantee to win the Christian Yes vote. Arguments about skyfairies and their existence are superfluous to what we wise heads all knew .... create a crack and a root will eventually invade and destroy the foundations.

 

[Tisme]

I wish trout could be caught as easily as you.

Again, you are way way OTT.

sigh ...... so lame

 

[wayneL]

Why are religious groups to be excluded from discriminating against others?
If average Joe is not allowed to, why is someone who believes in God allowed to?
1+1 = 2

Should Muslims be forced to serve bacon?

 

[satanoperca]

If they work in a cafe, yes

 

[Tisme]

Should Muslims be forced to serve bacon?

They must be punished, because that would constitute freedom of expression and lifestyle, something only LGBTxyzs are entitled too.

Religion is such an archaic concept with only 84% of the world population adhered in some way to it.

 

[satanoperca]

"Religion is such an archaic concept with only 84% of the world population adhered in some way to it."

Doesn't mean it is correct or right or benefits society. It is being challenge and in decline in Australia for a good reason, times have changed

And who cares about what the world does, we are talking about Australia, where 70% of the populations identifies to a religion.

 

[Value Collector]

Should Muslims be forced to serve bacon?

No, they shouldn't be forced to sell bacon, they can change their business to non bacon selling business anytime they want.

However if they are selling bacon, they should not be able to discriminate against who they serve based on race, sexuality or creed.

eg. we aren't asking "muslims to sell bacon", we asking people to not discriminate against customers, they can choose to sell what ever they like, but need to serve everybody without discriminating.

 

[Tink]

Well I am sure the vegans will be protesting in the restaurants next in Melbourne..

two legs bad, four legs good.

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[bellenuit]

There was to be no persecution of conscientious objectors. If you look back on record you will find Malcolm stated Churches, Celebrants and Charities would be protected.

Not quite correct. They were promised protection for religious ceremonies and events only and that is the case. There is no compulsion on them to marry gays under the rites of the Christian or other churches. However, marriage is also a civil ceremony and if religious celebrants want to maintain their ability to also act as civil celebrants, then they cannot refuse to do civil marriages based on their religious beliefs. They can simply forego (resign or whatever is the process) their right to perform civil marriages and continue to perform religious marriages according to the dictates of their church. That is not persecution.