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In a similar vein. Apparently this video is banned in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

 
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Things You Cannot Unsee (And What That Says About Your Brain)

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...e-and-what-that-says-about-your-brain/361335/

Very interesting article. Perhaps before reading, gaze for a few moments at the image below and note in your mind what you see. Then read on....

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Lifting the Veil of “Islamophobia”

A Conversation with Ayaan Hirsi Ali

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/lifting-the-veil-of-islamophobia

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This is a long but interesting article of a conversation between Sam Harris and Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

One quote from it.....

Hirsi Ali: Here’s the thing, Sam. Some moderate Muslims hate me””and yes, that’s a strong word, but I think what they’ve said supports it””because I make them feel uncomfortable. The things I talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they can’t live with. Many of them seem to hate me more than they hate al-Qaida.
 
Those are very, very good. I particularly liked this one:
You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence.
It is based on a deep seated need to believe.
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Well looks like we can push up this thread now, religion and science, one in the same....

Alleluia :D
 
You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence.
It is based on a deep seated need to believe.
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I think you can convince "believers" with appropriate evidence that their belief is unfounded.

Can anyone provide some ?
 
SirRumpole said:
I think you can convince "believers" with appropriate evidence that their belief is unfounded.

Can anyone provide some ?
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There is certainly a lot of religious people that won't be convinced by evidence. Look at the number of people that still believe the Biblical creation story, There is vast amounts of evidence that goes against the creation story, however believers in it just reject the evidence in favour of their bible story.
 
Value Collector said:
There is certainly a lot of religious people that won't be convinced by evidence. Look at the number of people that still believe the Biblical creation story, There is vast amounts of evidence that goes against the creation story, however believers in it just reject the evidence in favour of their bible story.
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That's true, and it's sad. But I think that the numbers of those type of people are falling.
 
SirRumpole said:
That's true, and it's sad. But I think that the numbers of those type of people are falling.
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I was listening to an American radio channel that was discussing the issue, and apparently in the last 15years the Population of the USA is becoming more polarised in this Area.

For decades there was a slow shift of beliefs away from the fundamentalist (bible is literally true crowd), across to the on the fence moderate crowd, But now the number of moderates is shrinking, while both the number of unbelievers and literalists is growing, It seems there is a big shift in both directions.

It seems this is being caused by a growing number of people becoming unbelievers due to a dislike of extremism and a growing acceptance of science, while on the other hand the Literalists have also been pushing hard to whip up emotional responses and attract people to their side.

I mean rubbish like this stuff doesn't help, the religious groups generate Millions of dollars to produce propaganda and misinformation like this.

 
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Value Collector said:
I was listening to an American radio channel that was discussing the issue, and apparently in the last 15years the Population of the USA is becoming more polarised in this Area.

For decades there was a slow shift of beliefs away from the fundamentalist (bible is literally true crowd), across to the on the fence moderate crowd, But now the number of moderates is shrinking, while both the number of unbelievers and literalists is growing, It seems there is a big shift in both directions.

It seems this is being caused by a growing number of people becoming unbelievers due to a dislike of extremism and a growing acceptance of science, while on the other hand the Literalists have also been pushing hard to whip up emotional responses and attract people to their side.

I mean rubbish like this stuff doesn't help, the religious groups generate Millions of dollars to produce propaganda and misinformation like this.

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I wonder if they genuinely believe that or are they just creating a market and playing to it.
 
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