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How could the equation for kinetic energy, have any relevance to a material existence, prior to the manifestation of that existence?Ah but if that equation were in the first paragraph of Genesis with the subtext that the reason why will be revealed over time as man comes to better understand God's creation, wouldn't that have gone a long way to proving the Bible was the word of God. Instead we get stories of talking snakes and burning bushes, proving beyond doubt that it was the work of simple herdsmen lacking any understanding of pretty much everything.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"How could the equation for kinetic energy, have any relevance to a material existence, prior to the manifestation of that existence?
That's great Wysiwyg."If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
The correct answer is no for physiology. The vibrations are emitted irrespective of human presence but if there is no one there to 'receive' them then the wave of vibrations through the air is all that took place. No sound.
The correct answer is yes for physics. The audible waves took place and a tape recorder could verify this.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it emit a vibration" would cover both as yes.
No sound? One would have to listen to all that internal dialogue. Let's pray the tapes are all optimistic.That's great Wysiwyg.
How is this, relevant absent the existence of trees, forest, air, or matter of any form?
Have yet to see an egg appear without a chicken.Are you suggesting that the attendant physical laws, predated the origination of the physical matter they now govern?
So from which egg, did the world's first hen emerge? And likewise, from which egg, emerged the first rooster?No sound? One would have to listen to all that internal dialogue. Let's pray the tapes are all optimistic.
Have yet to see an egg appear without a chicken.
You would need to ask any one of the many gods available. I am but a simple being with a conditioned mind.So from which egg, did the world's first hen emerge? And likewise, from which egg, emerged the first rooster?
It may have been a slow evolutionary event beginning with micro organisms that evolved differently to each other pending location on the planet (temperatures, pressures and other environmental differences). Over millions of years, the originals reproduced and materialised into vastly different appearances. The first chicken would have looked nothing like those of today. It is not like they simply appeared out of thin air but evolved from the original life sources.So from which egg, did the world's first hen emerge? And likewise, from which egg, emerged the first rooster?
Again that's great, but of course the origin of the originators, remains cloaked in mystery, suggesting your chosen line of enquiry to be infinitely regressive.It may have been a slow evolutionary event beginning with micro organisms that evolved differently to each other pending location on the planet (temperatures, pressures and other environmental differences). Over millions of years, the originals reproduced and materialised into vastly different appearances. The first chicken would have looked nothing like those of today. It is not like they simply appeared out of thin air but evolved from the original life sources.
There is also the possibility that seeds were always present, there was no first seed like there was no beginning of time.Again that's great, but of course the origin of the originators, remains cloaked in mystery, suggesting your chosen line of enquiry to be infinitely regressive.
In my opinion (lol) the bible authors made a critical error in naming a god as the source of all things sensed and not sensed. It is blatantly obvious that a presence so able would not allow human being (mind) to have destructive capability. As we observe in nature there is a balance where one does not proliferate and consume unchecked. No godly presence evident with the programmed balance of nature.The book of Genesis symbolically touches on at least a few profoundly insightful concepts, and it continues to amaze me just how quickly some of its critics have gravitated to erroneous conclusions about the relevance and meaning of its content.
Perhaps if you take the time and effort to understand (as opposed to misunderstand) the meaning of certain content contained within the first three chapters in the book of Genesis, maybe you'll come to realise that the critical error is more likely an imagining, pursuant to your opinion, rather than a perpetration of the authors, whom, to my understanding, have provided a reasonably sound and logical explanation for the source of mankind's ills.In my opinion (lol) the bible authors made a critical error in naming a god as the source of all things sensed and not sensed. It is blatantly obvious that a presence so able would not allow human being (mind) to have destructive capability. As we observe in nature there is a balance where one does not proliferate and consume unchecked. No godly presence evident with the programmed balance of nature.
Pass on the perhaps and maybe and please don't attempt conversion again. "To my understanding" (lol) it is nonsense perpetuated ad infinitum.Perhaps if you take the time and effort to understand (as opposed to misunderstand) the meaning of certain content contained within the first three chapters in the book of Genesis, maybe you'll come to realise that the critical error is more likely an imagining, pursuant to your opinion, rather than a perpetration of the authors, whom, to my understanding, have provided a reasonably sound and logical explanation for the source of mankind's ills.
I am not out to convert you, nor anyone else for that matter, to any particular religion, and voice my objection to any suggestion to the contrary.Pass on the perhaps and maybe and please don't attempt conversion again. "To my understanding" (lol) it is nonsense perpetuated ad infinitum.
How could the equation for kinetic energy, have any relevance to a material existence, prior to the manifestation of that existence?
Surely the manifestation of the material world, would need to occur, prior to delineation of such physical laws.
Just because contemporary science is yet to grasp the phenomenon giving rise to material existence, doesn't entitle disavowal and ridicule of symbolic references to the manifestation, and/or transformation, of consciousness/spirit, into matter, accordant to Kabbalistic principles.
So from which egg, did the world's first hen emerge? And likewise, from which egg, emerged the first rooster?
And I am tempted to agree that may well have been the case.From the egg of it’s mother, which if you go back far enough down the evolutionary line eventually wouldn’t be considered a hen.
Yes, a lot of it does resemble a God and is very original. It also seems to be copied by all the top films. Take Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark film. Just so you know I believe in that Biblical story, that there really was an ark, covered in gold, with the tablets and jar of manna, and other historical items the Jews carried for centuries before it was placed in the temple Solomon built. It seems to me that it is still looked for today. This would be the greatest archaeological find ever. Before the Babylonians destroyed that temple, Jeremiah collected the ark and hid it somewhere. They have tried to find it, unsuccessfully. I also felt very excited when on holiday in Israel and the tour guide pointed out to me the potential location of the 'Holy of Hollies ' chamber where that yearly sin sacrifice once took place. It was fascinating to ponder what once took place there. The psalms in the Bible seem to have many songs based on what it was like visiting and worshiping in that glorious temple. The blessings that came from there, and the experience of God's presence was a reality for those people of the OT. Amazingly enough the Jewish people already have detailed plans for building another temple (worship here is critical for their religion and identity), which happens to be next door to the Islamic mosque... So yes, although I follow the NT, I'm intrigued very much by the OT.Which part is god like?
Yes, a lot of it does resemble a God and is very original.
What about it couldn’t have been written by a man? It doesn’t seem special to meYes, a lot of it does resemble a God and is very original. It also seems to be copied by all the top films. Take Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark film. Just so you know I believe in that Biblical story, that there really was an ark, covered in gold, with the tablets and jar of manna, and other historical items the Jews carried for centuries before it was placed in the temple Solomon built. It seems to me that it is still looked for today. This would be the greatest archaeological find ever. Before the Babylonians destroyed that temple, Jeremiah collected the ark and hid it somewhere. They have tried to find it, unsuccessfully. I also felt very excited when on holiday in Israel and the tour guide pointed out to me the potential location of the 'Holy of Hollies ' chamber where that yearly sin sacrifice once took place. It was fascinating to ponder what once took place there. The psalms in the Bible seem to have many songs based on what it was like visiting and worshiping in that glorious temple. The blessings that came from there, and the experience of God's presence was a reality for those people of the OT. Amazingly enough the Jewish people already have detailed plans for building another temple (worship here is critical for their religion and identity), which happens to be next door to the Islamic mosque... So yes, although I follow the NT, I'm intrigued very much by the OT.
None of the evidence points towards any of the creation stories.And I am tempted to agree that may well have been the case.
However, our grasp of science isn't yet sufficiently evolved for 100% confidence, which is one of the several reasons, I, with just a little reticence, choose to allow creationism, and its advocates, a modicum of space for pursuit of their chosen line of enquiry.
That's quite a courageous claim!None of the evidence points towards any of the creation stories.
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