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Tisme said:
Just incase you want to sound knowledgeable at your next bbq outing, while discussing Star Wars:

this is a Darth Vader in electrical trade parlance
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That does look like him.

btw, I'm thinking of putting a power point outdoor but where I know the rain won't get to it. Is it safe to go with the normal indoor one or shouldn't risk a life for $10? :D

I mean those outdoor ones just cover the plug from water contact right? Or do they have moisture resistant and other safety feature I don't know about?
 
luutzu said:
That does look like him.

btw, I'm thinking of putting a power point outdoor but where I know the rain won't get to it. Is it safe to go with the normal indoor one or shouldn't risk a life for $10? :D

I mean those outdoor ones just cover the plug from water contact right? Or do they have moisture resistant and other safety feature I don't know about?
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This is a religious thread unless you think your electrical prowess may take you into the afterlife. :)
 
SirRumpole said:
You do that by remaining silent when Islamic atrocities are pointed out.
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Nope, you simply miss the nuance in my arguments.

I am fine with calling out ISIS, I have even said I am fine with dropping Jdams on their positions, But I am not fine with carpet bombing all muslims.

I am fine with pointing out that believing religious nonsense has negative side effects, But I am not fine with people acting like its limited to Islam.

I am fine with pointing out muslim preachers promoting Hatred and violence, I am not fine with people assuming all muslims believe those things.

Basically I am just saying the average muslim deserves the same respect given the average christian.
You quote one little Christian sect in Africa and ignore all the Islamic countries I quoted that enforce Sharia law, that's pretty biased imo
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You are constantly down playing it, it is not one christian sect, there are various levels of violence and immorality happening all over Africa at the hands of Christian fundamentalists.
 
SirRumpole said:
So that means not criticising Islam ? What do you mean by 'respect' ?
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Criticise the Qur'an all you want.
Criticise all you want any preacher you find preaching violence or hatred.
Criticise all you want any person or group directly involved in immoral behaviour.
Criticise (even Kill) extremists groups taking violent actions.

But don't treat all muslims as if they are doing the above. ( you wouldn't treat your local group of Lutherans poorly just because some catholics some where were doing something, you wouldn't try to ban churches or crosses)

I mean respect their constitutional rights to practice their religion, just as you respect a christians rights.
 
Value Collector said:
But don't treat all muslims as if they are doing the above. ( you wouldn't treat your local group of Lutherans poorly just because some catholics some where were doing something, you would try to ban churches or crosses)
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I don't treat individual Muslims any different to other people. I feel sorry for them being so intellectually and emotionally strangled. But perpetuating their religion only perpetuates their slavery, but even so I'm not saying mosques should be closed or people prevented from demonstrating their enslavement.

If Islam is abolished in this country because Muslims feel that they no longer have to abide by it for 'cultural' reasons, then that will be a great day in my view which I'm sure you would share in.
 
SirRumpole said:
If Islam is abolished in this country because Muslims feel that they no longer have to abide by it for 'cultural' reasons, then that will be a great day in my view which I'm sure you would share in.
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No religion will ever be abolished by force, religions thrive on perceived persecution, The likes of ISIS love that outraged westerners are abusing moderates and trying to make them feel second class.

It does nothing but create polarisation, it pushes the moderates further away from secular society and further into their shell, and that makes them easier to recruit.

If the moderate muslim doesn't feel safe sending their child to a secular school, then how is secularism ever going to grow among the moderates?
 
If the moderate muslim doesn't feel safe sending their child to a secular school, then how is secularism ever going to grow among the moderates?
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I agree, but you are not reading me. I said I have nothing against individual Muslims only their religion.

We could do away with public funding of all religious schools for a start. There is no law that says religious schools have to receive taxpayers money.
 
It appeared to me George Pell was stooped in the classic jesus christ crucifix bearing walk to court today. The possessed flocked from all parts with pictures, plaques and well wishes. Stripped of the cloth he is just another aged human.
 
luutzu said:
That does look like him.

btw, I'm thinking of putting a power point outdoor but where I know the rain won't get to it. Is it safe to go with the normal indoor one or shouldn't risk a life for $10? :D

I mean those outdoor ones just cover the plug from water contact right? Or do they have moisture resistant and other safety feature I don't know about?
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They are IP rated for their position. If you are going to use a GPO outside you should probably look at putting a cover kit.
 
Tisme said:
They are IP rated for their position. If you are going to use a GPO outside you should probably look at putting a cover kit.
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Better play it safe then.

While we're on the subject, if a light bulb is burnt out, does it still eat up electricity when the switch is on?
 
SirRumpole said:
I don't treat individual Muslims any different to other people. I feel sorry for them being so intellectually and emotionally strangled. But perpetuating their religion only perpetuates their slavery, but even so I'm not saying mosques should be closed or people prevented from demonstrating their enslavement.

If Islam is abolished in this country because Muslims feel that they no longer have to abide by it for 'cultural' reasons, then that will be a great day in my view which I'm sure you would share in.
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I don't know Rumpole... I don't have any Muslim friends but I do have acquaintances and they seem to be fine believing their version of the Bible [get it, the Bible, Part III :D...]

That and you don't need Islam to intellectually or emotionally strangled a person. Any beliefs taken religiously will do.

In some way, it would be good to believe in that great protector who will do you right if you turn up to Church/Mosque/Temple once a week, hand over a few bucks. Sometime I wish I could believe it... but then where's life won't be as fun though.
 
luutzu said:
That and you don't need Islam to intellectually or emotionally strangled a person. Any beliefs taken religiously will do.
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Sure but these days the vast majority of Christian groups don't flog, stone, behead or blow people up for so called religious crimes.
 
SirRumpole said:
Sure but these days the vast majority of Christian groups don't flog, stone, behead or blow people up for so called religious crimes.
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So are the vast majority of Muslims.

There are some 1.5 Billion Muslims, how many of them are ISIS? Or Al Qaeda? Or just your typical terrorist?

Worth studying up the history of the Middle East. Particularly its modern history... say, since Britannia ruled the waved and had her boots all over the ME, South Asia.
 
luutzu said:
Worth studying up the history of the Middle East. Particularly its modern history... say, since Britannia ruled the waved and had her boots all over the ME, South Asia.
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If they want to carry on wars of revenge they can do it somewhere else, not in this country.
 
SirRumpole said:
If they want to carry on wars of revenge they can do it somewhere else, not in this country.
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The vast majority of Muslims in Western countries do not fight any war of vengeance on their adopted land. And again, I'm not justifying or excusing any kind of violence... merely pointing out that war and peace is a much more complicated thing than good vs evil, Red light sabre for the bad guys while blue or green for the Jedi.
 
luutzu said:
The vast majority of Muslims in Western countries do not fight any war of vengeance on their adopted land. .
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As someone looking inside from outside how do you know that? Travel north and you will find a country of people who are indoctrinated to hate whitey and burn christian churches to the ground, yet we provide aid and bogans are encouraged to vacation there; a country that will overtake us in GDP in a decade or so.

Travel to the middle east, spend a couple of months and observe the real feelings towards foreigners and women.
 
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