Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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We are having a world war though. If we define World War as wars occuring on three continents at the same time - as opposed to great powers at war directly.
All great powers (and Australia, haha) are converging in the ME. China and India is standing around watching; with one of them setting up new chess boards in a a sea or two for a new match.
I'm hoping for an alien invasion so we could all stop killing each other for a while. But then we'd be stuffed by the aliens so hmm...
I woudn't describe the campaign against terror as a world war, it might be global in nature but its a different beast its not the major industrial type of war that I was saying Nukes have prevented.
Alright, not technically a World War... but global war then.
It might prove more dangerous than a WW in my opinion. With the Mutual Assured Destruction, that MADness prevent the crazies general and presidents from ending life on Earth. With terrorists, if they can get a hand on it it's done. There's no state we could attack to retaliate against - and if we do, they're everywhere so we can't nuke everywhere - can we?
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Anyway, we're nuts. We could work together, build and make useful stuff to use and sell, making our lives and income better and not having to kill anyone doing it. Instead we just blow things up and try not to get ourselves kill or wreck the economy with it
Yep, its a different beast alright, and there is no simple answer, nuking and carpet bombing doesn't work.
All that will really end it is the abandoning of the crazy ideals that lead to it, and in the meantime a lot of good intelligence* and special forces work, and bucket loads of Jdams, lots and lots of Jdams.
*2nd usage of the word, "the collection of information of military or political value" (not related to the 1st usage discussed earlier)
Yep, totally nuts, that's one of the main reasons I distain religion, because it is one of the major problems preventing that outcome, and it makes it harder to move past our inbuilt tribalism, and promotes irrational thinking, and prevents the change in attitudes we need.
.Maybe the answer is a few enlightened capitalists... like you and me; don't know about you, certainly is me, haha
Religion and nationalism are obstacles, but if we remove it what do we replace it with?
Capitalism seems to be the answer but then they'd do what they do seeing there is no loyalty or care for any people or any country - the whole world is then stuffed. Well some are more stuffed than others.
Capitalism is just our economic system, it exists regardless of religion, and I can't see how its an either / or.
I mean if a person abandons their religion it doesn't mean they need some other indoctrination, they can just go on living as they were minus the fairy tales and beheadings, maybe get a sunday morning hobby, I see drone flying is taking off, maybe read a science book to qwell the curiosity, instead of a religious text.
That's like asking a person suffering from cancer what are they going to replace the cancer with once they are cancer free, the answer is nothing, you just go on living a healthy life.
Capitalism is just our economic system, it exists regardless of religion, and I can't see how its an either / or.
I mean if a person abandons their religion it doesn't mean they need some other indoctrination, they can just go on living as they were minus the fairy tales and beheadings, maybe get a sunday morning hobby, I see drone flying is taking off, maybe read a science book to qwell the curiosity, instead of a religious text.
Yes but I think a lot of people turn to religion because they think that religion cares about them personally, whereas the capitalistic society just thinks about profits.
If you want to do away with religion then you have to replace it with a caring society, otherwise people will just go back to religion.
Yes but I think a lot of people turn to religion because they think that religion cares about them personally, whereas the capitalistic society just thinks about profits.
If you want to do away with religion then you have to replace it with a caring society, otherwise people will just go back to religion.
I think in general people are pretty caring, and we can care about profits 9 - 5 and then do good work after hours, look at the worlds biggest charitable donations, they are from capitalists or capitalist organisations.
Also, I feel the best way to lift people out of poverty is capitalism.
look at this type of work, this awesome, all funded through capitalism, to benefit people and build future business, trade is at the heart of capitalism, and trade lift people from poverty.
not just assume that any business is good business if it makes money for a few.
Super is a start, but people should be taught that from the moment they start working they need to be thinking about building an ownership interest in the world around them.
That's fine for some areas but it's questionable whether the profit motive is good for everybody or everything.
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I don't think medical drugs should controlled as much by business interests as they are now. The idea that companies can patent genes is just one area where corporations have tried to muscle in on what should be a public interest area. Public interest vs private interest is a big issue.
Do you want the police privatised ? The courts ? Social work ? Natural Resource Assessment ?
Profit is just really your payment for supply of the goods you produce...................
No some things are better handled by government.
I think in general people are pretty caring, and we can care about profits 9 - 5 and then do good work after hours, look at the worlds biggest charitable donations, they are from capitalists or capitalist organisations.
Also, I feel the best way to lift people out of poverty is capitalism.
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Like Nickel Refineries for example
That's an idealised version of capitalism, of course.
Ideally, people, capitalists, ought to be thinking of doing good work 9 to 5. After hours are set aside for family, kids, and trying to get lucky.
When a business do good work, when they create value, they should be rewarded and make good profit to boot. But thing is, and we all know this... there are many ways to make profit - making good product or services is the worst and riskiest part of making money.
Building a better mouse trap require a lot of work, taking a lot of risks, and the results may be complete failure. To make money only, on the other hand... use the money you have and buy off a few politicians; push the costs of, say, clean environment and waste onto the Earth itself, or onto those who either live with it or pay to have it clean up themselves.
If we judged by the number of wealthy individuals versus the number of people sliding into poverty past five years... it does not appear that wealth were created by enriching the other people. Was created by what economists call rent-seeking. Influence politics so that the state will sell you its essential monopolies, you buy it for a steal and jack up the price: result is the few with the cash got real rich, the many who have to use the infrastructure better get second job.
they will probably also make sure your lights are on
Private enterprise did not build the power generation or distribution system in this country, they just want to get their hands on what they see as continual profits without risk.
"Socialise the risk and privatise the profit" is the way this country is now operating.
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