Excuse me VC, it was you who said "religion is evil", not me.
How can something evil have any "good parts" ?
profoundly immoral and wicked
or to say all religious groups are evil is also untrue.
Why? If one uses free range eggs?I understand now that you don't eat meat, but if animal rights is the issue, then eating egg products should be avoided also.
Agreed, but you have to have some strategy for sorting out the good groups from the evil ones, and when it comes to terrorism, you can't go on trust alone.
Why? If one uses free range eggs?
And now I suppose there will be a further lecture about not being able to trust criteria for free range etc.
just like its not your job to search bags at the airport, you can't walk around the airport making public accusations that ALL the muslims may be terrorists. (my caps and bolds)
There you go again, misrepresentation at its worst, I don't know how many times I have to pick you up on this.
SOME Islamic groups/individuals MAY BE terrorists. How do you determine who is ? You carry out investigations on SUSPECTS to see if there is any evidence. Who do you suspect ? Groups that transfer money overseas perhaps.
You trace the money and see where it goes. If it goes to genuine recipients fine, no action is taken and no one needs to know there has been an investigation. If it goes to dodgy groups you investigate further. That's what the intelligence agencies should do, and all I'm saying is I hope they are doing it.
My comments have all been directly at you, making assumptions that the halal group may be a terrorist organisation,
. For PC reasons are you suggesting that this possibility be ignored ?
No, I believe the authorities can investigate until their hearts are content. But the average punter such as you and I should not make unfounded accusations or treat other citizens with contempt, at least until they have been shown to be doing the wrong thing.
Well, obviously they do. But it's a different story killing a creature as fragile as a chicken compared with cattle which we know have been in many instances brutally and unnecessarily cruelly treated prior to their killing.Because the free range laying hens still end up at the slaughter house, just like the broiler hens.
and the diary cows (and their male calves) end up in the slaughter house just like the meat cattle.
Just because we have a temporary use for animals generating by products, doesn't mean they are spared the slaughter house.
I didn't interpret anything Rumpole said as that at all. You seem determined to argue for the sake of it.My comments have all been directly at you, making assumptions that the halal group may be a terrorist organisation,
Well, obviously they do. But it's a different story killing a creature as fragile as a chicken compared with cattle which we know have been in many instances brutally and unnecessarily cruelly treated prior to their killing.
The best we can do in thanks for the sacrifice animals make for us is treat them with respect while they are still alive.
I didn't interpret anything Rumpole said as that at all. You seem determined to argue for the sake of it.
Regardless of the benefits or otherwise of Halal food, if you have to pay the Islamic Council for certification, in today's circumstances do you know where that money is going to ?
PERHAPS some money is going to terrorism. Who handles the money, what are their links with terrorists ? These things should be investigated.
If he, or anyone else declines to feel enthusiastic about consuming anything categorised as halal, for whatever reason, that's their choice and their business.
One day you describe everything to do with all religion as one of the great scourges of life, and the next you're doggedly defending it.
yes, I know, I have seen the process also, and I have heard stories of the stun gun not rendering the animal unconscious.
So 200 Muslims demonstrate on the streets in protest of the police raids and the ultimate arrests.
It is pretty obvious those 200 condone terrorism.....the sleeping logs are awake.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/n...-1227062988666
Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.
About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.
One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".
Can't remember if I've posted this one already...
Friday, 15 March, 2002, 12:19 GMT
Saudi [religious] police 'stopped' fire rescue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1874471.stm
Is religion crazy?
YES.....
OK.
When you mentioned 'cows that aren't killed by the stun gun puncturing their skull', I assumed that you were unaware of how a stun gun functions, which is not to puncture the animals skull, but to simply hit them a stunning blow usually to the back of the head that leaves them unconscious.
Re: Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ??? Post #98
A comment that perhaps VC may like to give his opinion on.
I don't know much about their reasons for protesting, so can't really comment,
Do you think it's bigoted to assume that they all condone terrorism ?
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