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Recession etc, are things really that bad?

I expect Kincella was just reacting to having been pigeon holed himself/herself given all the generalisations usually made about baby boomers. I can't think of any other generation which has been so classified.

Every generation has spenders and savers, stupid and sensible.

Gen Y seems to be getting a great ride as the "cause" of this credit crisis. Especially on here. :rolleyes:
 
Chops there is the same problem in areas here.

Now some baby boomers have geared themselves into oblivion, I do find it rather amusing those women at the coffee club will die out -anyone for nestle instant?

My friend a GP said there are more job losses than people are aware - across the board in age and career. The shock of mortgage defaults from otherwise people of stability will hit early next year. To assume all will be rosy is a bit naive.

When people have lost much of what they thought was untouchable the road ahead is far more difficult. Getting confidence back, accepting a lower ranked and lower paid job maybe difficult for some.

Don't forget the amount of money Municipalities have lost in this too. Certain counties in the USA are already bankrupt – one in Alabama can’t fix the sewage.

I noticed that the garbage man (8 months ago had 2 helpers) is now on his own to pull the bins out, get them emptied and put them back and he has about 30 streets to do on his own. I always said thank you if I saw him, an unrewarding job and the slightest thank you meant alot. Someone has to do it - be grateful for the utilities we have.
 
Dear Kincella,

I like your attitude. Though you are frugal, but you are kind hearted and am willing to part your K RUDD $$$ to charities and animal welfare!

way to go!!!!

say hi to your dog..........Does he/she like Inspector Fex, i mean Rex?:)
 
Gen Y seems to be getting a great ride as the "cause" of this credit crisis. Especially on here. :rolleyes:
Which major country leaders are Gen Y? None that I'm aware of.

Which major investment banks have a Gen Y as CEO? None that I'm aware of.

Which central banks have a Gen Y in charge? None that I'm aware of.

Few if any of the decisions causing this mess at the global level were made by Gen Y's. Look to Gen X and moreso the Boomers if you want to find the people running the world and making these ruinous decisions.
 
Which major country leaders are Gen Y? None that I'm aware of.

Which major investment banks have a Gen Y as CEO? None that I'm aware of.

Which central banks have a Gen Y in charge? None that I'm aware of.

Few if any of the decisions causing this mess at the global level were made by Gen Y's. Look to Gen X and moreso the Boomers if you want to find the people running the world and making these ruinous decisions.

I know.

But Lancelot and others on here have actually said this. :rolleyes:
 
The global economic crisis is financially hurting up to 25 local councils in NSW and some face possible bankruptcy, says the Local Government Association (LGA).

LGA president Genia McCaffery says both metropolitan and rural councils are exposed to the collapse of US investment house Lehman Brothers.

Many Australian councils had bought triple-A rated collateralised debt obligations (CDOs) backed by US subprime mortgages from Grange Securities, which was later bought by Lehman Brothers.

Ms McCaffery said up to 25 of the 152 local councils in NSW were exposed, but metropolitan councils had stronger survival mechanisms in place.

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http://www.lendingcentral.com/2008/10/28/some-local-councils-may-face-bankruptcy-lga/
 
Wax up those surfboards ready for when your jobs gone :D

Love this quote, but before you go surfing best to get into the swing of visiting you local (Missinglink) sorry that should read Centrelink office and dropping off that fortnightly dole form. Mass unemployement is on its way folks and it will be the key to knock those sqealing high house prices into freefall.

Aussie are obbsessed with housing, and that "shieeeell be right attitude" is going to take a beating very shortly when the guy on the street looses his job, and the nextdoor neighbour and the the other neighbour and so on and so forth.

The local centrelink offices are going to be like poker machines hitting jackpots all day everyday, there will be that much government money being doled out over the 2009-2010 period. Its gonna be a frightening time and I just don't understand why we are refusing to accept that we will not lose our jobs.

WHY OH WHY IS THE AVERAGE AUSSIE SPENDING UP BIG NOW ON THESE PRE/POST XMAS SALES. STOP SPENDING YOU DILLS!:banghead:
 
Love this quote, but before you go surfing best to get into the swing of visiting you local (Missinglink) sorry that should read Centrelink office and dropping off that fortnightly dole form. Mass unemployement is on its way folks and it will be the key to knock those sqealing high house prices into freefall.

Aussie are obbsessed with housing, and that "shieeeell be right attitude" is going to take a beating very shortly when the guy on the street looses his job, and the nextdoor neighbour and the the other neighbour and so on and so forth.

The local centrelink offices are going to be like poker machines hitting jackpots all day everyday, there will be that much government money being doled out over the 2009-2010 period. Its gonna be a frightening time and I just don't understand why we are refusing to accept that we will not lose our jobs.

WHY OH WHY IS THE AVERAGE AUSSIE SPENDING UP BIG NOW ON THESE PRE/POST XMAS SALES. STOP SPENDING YOU DILLS!:banghead:

All the above comments indicate it is the opportunity of a lifetime to make a quid.

When the folk are flooding centrelink and you have a compliant government there is a lot of money floating about, you just need to have a high enough net.

gg
 
Mackay has the highest sales of HSV and High Performance Fords in OZ along with the necessary items of life like Jet ski's etc. once all those jobs go and the miners walk out with massive debt Mackay will be the first to go down hill.
 
WHY OH WHY IS THE AVERAGE AUSSIE SPENDING UP BIG NOW ON THESE PRE/POST XMAS SALES. STOP SPENDING YOU DILLS!:banghead:

I just got back from the local mall. It was insane, literally. Democratic consumerism is alive and well up here in the north. Here though, if you are terminated, your "centerlink" payments are based on your exit salary...in most cases folk will receive 80-90% of their exit salary in unemployment benefits. I sense that the mother of all moral hazard case studies just around the corner.
 
IHere though, if you are terminated, your "centerlink" payments are based on your exit salary...in most cases folk will receive 80-90% of their exit salary in unemployment benefits. I sense that the mother of all moral hazard case studies just around the corner.

That i would imagine is capped and means tested so unless your on a low income and don't own anything it wont be paid.

But why not spend up on cheap goods, the impact of a weak A$ will come through soon on anything imported and particualy Japanese, also unemployment may go up but its been at record low levels, unless its going to the high 20,s or 30,s then most Aussies still arnt effected in the everyday lives, why this sudden media induced fear :mad:

As i said in the opening post "Why is it different this time" :confused:
 
just wondering about the centelink payment, based on your exit salary.....if your exit salary exceeded between 62 pf and about 800pf you may receive some tiny amount...you are allowed to earn 62 pf to receive the full benefit of about 434 pf....after that about 50 cents in the dollar of your income reduces the benefit.....doubt too many people would have an income that low....its more likely much higher....centrelink also takes into account any holiday pay and termination payments..eg redundancy packages.....
so if you received a payout of between 1500 to 5000 say , there is no centrelink benefit....I believe centrelink expects you to support yourself or find another job in the meantime....

I am questioning the statement one would receive 80-90% of the dole....?

I do wonder how people can survive on only 434 pf....anyway....I could not and doubt anyone else could
 
My mum is a boomer, has 4 properties, probably needs to sell one to pay down debt. Therefore all boomers have too many properties with too much gearing without sufficient income in return. :rolleyes:

My son's boomer father-in-law is quite wealthy - about $50Million in RE assets. Around 6 months back he paid $5Million for a mansion on the coast strip north of Scarborough Beach. He reckons it is only worth around $3.75Million now. Cest la vie - it's all relative. For people fortunate enough as him at this point in time, that sort of loss is totally sustainable and means little to him. He is still multi-millions ahead in other properties and developments courtesy of the recent boom in Perth. Though even he now is hoping this "temporary downturn" (as he calls it) will only last a few more months.

Robots would love him - he hates the stock market! :)


chiz,


aj
 
Here though, if you are terminated, your "centerlink" payments are based on your exit salary...in most cases folk will receive 80-90% of their exit salary in unemployment benefits.

Eh? So, if some executive is sacked and their exit salary was $100,000 P.A. they would get $80-90,000 P.A. unemployment benefit? :confused: Something doesn't sound right there.... :confused:

If that was true, the whole work-eligible population of Australia would now be unemployed and living in Banana-Bender land!! :eek: :)
 
aussiejeff....I used to live in Wodonga...grew up on farm...could not get out fast enough.. did you move there by choice ?
and about the centrelink benefits....see my post this morning for more accuracy
 
Dear Kincella,

I like your attitude. Though you are frugal, but you are kind hearted and am willing to part your K RUDD $$$ to charities and animal welfare!

way to go!!!!

say hi to your dog..........Does he/she like Inspector Fex, i mean Rex?:)
err...K Rudd did not give me any money.....it was the grandchildren.who were the recipients...
I am not eligible for any govt payments...and do not want it anyway....am self funded/ self employed

The dog says Hi to you to...she watches most animals on TV and sometimes barks at the dogs, jumps up to the tv looking for them,,,then looks around the back of the TV...she like the funniest home video shows' animals the best
cheers
 
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