Not many Australians would reach the age of 16 without having tried alcohol and also smoking, both of which are illegal at that age. Prohibition in any form never has and never will work, that's the lesson of history and we see it clearly today as well.just cause you change the legal drinking age, doesnt mean people wont drink.
the troublemakers would still drink[parties] or get fake ids.
most australias start at 15 or 16, im guessing.
Another fine post smurf .... thankyou
where i am and what i do i also have noticed a heck of a rise in "pill " use and other "manufactured illegal substances" . to buy a premixed spirit stubby in a local club is $ 10.50 a stubbie , a beer 7/8 bucks ........ water free ....... pop a pill and boogie the night away cheaply seems the go these days.
pop a pill and boogie the night away cheaply seems the go these days.
What is a carton of Swan or Emu then? Over $50.00
Side effects
The most common adverse side effects reported by users include:
* Psychological
o Paradoxical anxiety and/or paranoia
o Agitation or restlessness
o Impaired attention, focus, and concentration
o Mild cognitive and memory impairment (primarily short-term memory loss)
* Physiological
o Dizziness, lightheadedness, or vertigo
o Blurry vision and/or nystagmus or involuntary and rapid eye movements
o Mydriasis or pupil dilation
o Xerostomia or dry mouth
o Nausea and emesis or vomiting
o Gastrointestinal disturbances such as diarrhea or constipation
o Headache or migraine
o Trismus or jaw clenching and/or bruxism or teeth grinding
o Trembling or muscle tremors
o Urinary retention or ischuria, caused by hyponatremia
o Sexual dysfunction, consisting of erectile dysfunction and anorgasmia or inability to ejaculate
o Anorexia or decreased appetite
o Insomnia or inability to fall to asleep
o Tachycardia or increased heart rate
o Hypertension or increased blood pressure
o Hyperthermia or increased body temperature
o Hyperhidrosis or increased perspiration or sweating
o Hyponatremia or a water-electrolyte imbalance
A society in which there are usually no consequences for committing such crimes and where violence is glorified.
I didn`t realise illegal substance use is blatantly widespread.
Excessive alcohol use increases the risk of a number of diseases: fatty degeneration of the liver
infection of the liver
liver cirrhosis
sleeping disorders
sexual problems
infection of the esophagus
infection of the stomach,
infection of the pancreas,
premature dementia, varying from a reduction of memory to the serious syndrome of Korsakoff;
cancer of the mouth, throat, larynx, intestines and breasts;
hypertension and heart problems.
Alcohol is also damaging during pregnancy.
Also alcohol takes its toll in traffic.
I'm not in the industry but I do know that one of the big problems the nightclubs especially have (in terms of running the business) is that:yep, something around that number retail.wholesale for the clubs is a bit different. they making an absolute killing on markup but losing volumes because of the availability and cost factor of popping a pill instead .
I was thinking in terms of legal consequences, not physical. Bash someone senseless and at worst the law might give you a slap on the wrist. That's not much of a deterrent...Agree with what you said, but not sure about the above.
In the testing of MDMA (active substance in ecstacy) on rats it would take humans the equivilant of 50 - 60 pure pills to overdose (depending on weight) this would be about 5000 milligrams, when a 'dose' is considered to be 100 - 150 mg.
It is the other non active substances in illegally manufactured pills that cause deaths. More people dies riding horses each year than from overdosing on ecstacy, and its intersting to note that Switzerland, Israel and Canada have all moved to human trials of (pure) MDMA to treat depression and post traumatic stress disorder in veterans.
I just think what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. Why can a drug like smokes and grog be legal despite the huge known health risks, when there ARE other much safer drugs that remain illegal. Either ban it all, or legalise it all imo
Then lets legalise steroids too...
I was thinking in terms of legal consequences, not physical. Bash someone senseless and at worst the law might give you a slap on the wrist. That's not much of a deterrent...
If it were me, I'd lower the age limit for consumption within licensed premises to 16 and leave it at 18 for bottleshop sales. It's not pubs and clubs that are the problem once you realise that 70% of alcohol is sold at bottle shops and that in 2009 pre drinks are the norm.
Sounds similar to the pot debate that went on years ago about legalising it. I don`t see any problem whatsoever with people consuming whatever they want. The problem arises when the lives of others are affected by the user (including alcohol) such as smacking into a power pole. If I`m dealing with someone "coming down" from an ecka trip then I certainly won`t be putting my life in their hands or allowing them to handle my finances.It is the other non active substances in illegally manufactured pills that cause deaths. More people dies riding horses each year than from overdosing on ecstacy, and its intersting to note that Switzerland, Israel and Canada have all moved to human trials of (pure) MDMA to treat depression and post traumatic stress disorder in veterans.
I just think what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. Why can a drug like smokes and grog be legal despite the huge known health risks, when there ARE other much safer drugs that remain illegal. Either ban it all, or legalise it all imo
If I`m dealing with someone "coming down" from an ecka trip then I certainly won`t be putting my life in their hands or allowing them to handle my finances.
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