Queensland Election 2012

[IFocus]

I don't think it matters who you voted for yesterday; the result was awful. A government that has vast dominance in numbers ensures there will be no effective opposition. I don't see how this can be good in the long-term.

Fact is its not. Labor were always going to get a shellacking but to this extent is doing Queensland no favors.

Queensland will effectively have no opposition not that any here will mind if its Labor but power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[joea]

In the Qld election there were people putting up signs through out the state at dawn on election day.
There was an army of LNP helpers and members who have been waiting a long time for election day.
Would you believe some votes turned up two hrs before voting.
As for the landfall win, I think the voters voiced their opinions on the situation of Qld, Australia and the state of the economy of both.
The voters in Queensland made a statement.
WE ARE SICK OF INCREASED TAXES, AND CONTINUAL INCREASED PRICES IN THE COST OF LIVING. AND WE WILL NOT ACCEPT LIES.

JULIA GILLARD WE ARE COMING FOR YOU NEXT. Starting with COAG next month.
joea

 

[Calliope]

Government of the people by business for business eh Calliope ?

I hope so Rumpy. It is certainly preferable to government of the people by the unions for the unions.

 

[MrBurns]

Fact is its not. Labor were always going to get a shellacking but to this extent is doing Queensland no favors.

Queensland will effectively have no opposition not that any here will mind if its Labor but power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Labor cant even LOSE an election without doing it so bad they create a problem.

 

[IFocus]

WE ARE SICK OF INCREASED TAXES, AND CONTINUAL INCREASED PRICES IN THE COST OF LIVING.

Classic you are describing the WA Barnett Liberal / Nat government.

 

[Smurf1976]

So far as the cost of living is concerned, there's no easy way out as far as I can see from a "big picture" perspective. Government could of course do things like buy back the utilities, end tolls on roads etc and that would help to some extent, but a lot surely comes down to the AUD.

We desperately need a substantially lower AUD in order to avoid wiping out practically every non-mining industry we have. But a lower AUD directly translates into inflation, especially of petrol and similar fuels. The RBA is thus in a tight spot on this one - a high currency is killing us in the long term, a low one will send living costs up.

 

[sails]

SO: Can the Queenslanders amongst us please say why they voted for their chosen party yesterday? Was their decision based on State or Federal issues?

Eager, how else can voters Australia wide get the message to Gillard? She thumbs her nose at professional polls that have a good track record of showing majority voter sentiment. She seems to refuse to listen to the people who pay her wages. Now it seems the people have stopped listening to her.

Bligh and Gillard have both deceived their electorates with pre-election promises which they clearly did not intend to keep and, in hindsight, looks awfully like it was purely to get votes.

 

[joea]

Well I now see that Newman has got too much power.
The facts are that LNP received votes from those that normally vote for them, plus the swingers and finally from Labor voters who swung to LNP.

I sure Newman did not believe his party would win so many.

If Newman delegates that power to his front bench, it will become a well balanced government.
Basically he has said he wants accountability. That begins with delegation.

"The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use - of how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public."
Robert. F. Kennedy

Truth and Transparency will illuminate the journey of the "first 100 days", perhaps then we can then pause and make a sensible judgement.
Until then less be Australians and "give him a go"!! It should not be too much to ask.
joea

 

[Eager]

Eager, how else can voters Australia wide get the message to Gillard? She thumbs her nose at professional polls that have a good track record of showing majority voter sentiment. She seems to refuse to listen to the people who pay her wages. Now it seems the people have stopped listening to her.

Bligh and Gillard have both deceived their electorates with pre-election promises which they clearly did not intend to keep and, in hindsight, looks awfully like it was purely to get votes.

Fair enough.

I know very little about Qld politics but have learnt a little more from these pages over the past day or so. The only thing I previously knew about Bligh is that she constantly had her head in front of the camera during the floods and Yasi (not opportunistically either) and she seemed to be popular during these crisis, showing good leadership.

Going back to what I wrote on page 1 about the by-election in Vic that resulted in a 4% swing to Labor: Why was the electorate in that seat not concerned about Federal issues? Was it because they weren't whipped into a frenzy about them? I am assuming that in Qld, the LNP's campaign contained a fair dose of negativity about Federal matters?

I am not pretending for a moment that Labor could have retained power in Qld if the electorate voted purely on State issues, but I just wonder if it would have made much difference to the swing. I guess we'll never know.

 

[Knobby22]

They usually say when a party gets wiped out that only the "rump" of the party is left.

In this case the best word would be "topside" as it is so small and of dubious quality.

http://www.list.co.uk/article/17268-cuts-of-meat-where-your-beef-comes-from/

Also, that guy who Rudd hired and ran this election campaign should never be used by anyone in Labor again.

 

[Calliope]

They usually say when a party gets wiped out that only the "rump" of the party is left.

In this case the best word would be "topside" as it is so small and of dubious quality.

http://www.list.co.uk/article/17268-cuts-of-meat-where-your-beef-comes-from/

Also, that guy who Rudd hired and ran this election campaign should never be used by anyone in Labor again.

The tactic to defame and knock off the head man was the only tactic they could have used. The ALP campaigners were very annoyed when the CMC (Crime and Misconduct Commission) cleared Newman of any wrong doing, days before the election. They thought they had the CMC in their pocket. Bruce Hawker's malicious plan fell in a heap.

 

[Julia]

I know very little about Qld politics but have learnt a little more from these pages over the past day or so. The only thing I previously knew about Bligh is that she constantly had her head in front of the camera during the floods and Yasi (not opportunistically either) and she seemed to be popular during these crisis, showing good leadership.

She was just terrific at that time. And it did seem completely genuine worry and concern that motivated her. The polls quite rightly shot up after that but quickly returned to their lows.

Going back to what I wrote on page 1 about the by-election in Vic that resulted in a 4% swing to Labor: Why was the electorate in that seat not concerned about Federal issues? Was it because they weren't whipped into a frenzy about them? I am assuming that in Qld, the LNP's campaign contained a fair dose of negativity about Federal matters?

I think you're ignoring the different type of population base in the two States.
Victoria has always been better for Labor. Queensland has probably more entrenched rigidly conservative attitudes in many regional and country areas. You can see this from the astonishing support obtained by Katter's party in this election. I can't fathom why any, um, normal person would vote for anything that he was part of, but they have and in decent numbers.

And you're quite wrong in suggesting the LNP's campaign contained a fair dose of negativity about Federal matters. I may have missed it but I followed the whole tedious process pretty closely and don't recall hearing anything on Federal stuff.
It was very much about the ALP making constant personal attacks on Campbell Newman, who did his best not to react and rather to get on with telling the electorate about his policies for Qld.

Just my opinion, but I reckon apart from the electorate just being totally fed up with Labor for the way they've behaved especially over the last term, they nailed down their own coffin lid with their vicious and baseless attacks on Newman, e.g. saying he would find himself in jail etc. The people do not like this sort of personal stuff and I'd be very surprised if this wasn't the factor that drove many swinging voters to go for the LNP.

You would have to have been a resident in Queensland, Eager, to understand all the reasons why we have absolutely had it with the ALP.

 

[joea]

There are two facts that are going to come from the results of the Qld election.

I The Federal Government is attempting to short change Queenslander's on its share of the Qld mining booty. So there are, and will be future Federal implications in Qld voters.
Federal Labor will continually attempt to dissociate the results of Qld election from the next Federal Election. (They will be proven wrong.)

2 Labor will rebuild, and they will do it from Ashgrove. Labor will not forget over the coming term, where they should have won to keep out Newman.
Just as there was no hope in the eyes of Anna Bligh in the last few months, Kate's eyes were livid with hate for the person who took away her opportunity, possibly to be a Premier of Qld. (When she conceded defeat!)
"Hell has no fury like a woman scorned."
joea

 

[MrBurns]

Labor heavyweights shun by-election lifeline
Updated March 26, 2012 13:41:29

Story: Newman promises to rule Queensland with dignityRelated Story: Chisholm defends Labor's attacks on NewmanMap: QLD
Deposed Labor minister Cameron Dick has ruled himself out of the running for the South Brisbane by-election sparked by the resignation of former premier Anna Bligh.

Both Mr Dick and former treasurer Andrew Fraser had been touted as possible future leaders of Queensland Labor as it tries to rebuild in the wake of Saturday's massive state election defeat.

Today Mr Dick, the former education and industrial relations minister, said he had been overwhelmed by supporters urging him to run in South Brisbane after losing his seat of Greenslopes to the LNP on Saturday.

"Important that I spend time with T and the kids now, so I won't be running," he tweeted./

Love that last bit ROFL gasp ! gasp !! choke !! choke.........

 

[Calliope]

She was just terrific at that time. And it did seem completely genuine worry and concern that motivated her. The polls quite rightly shot up after that but quickly returned to their lows.

It was all an act and a good one too. It made a good story for the media. She has since demonstrated that she is a nasty piece of work. Graham Richardson, who spent a fair amount of time in the electorates, said the voters detested her. The results proved it.

 

[moXJO]

Fair enough.

I know very little about Qld politics but have learnt a little more from these pages over the past day or so. The only thing I previously knew about Bligh is that she constantly had her head in front of the camera during the floods and Yasi (not opportunistically either) and she seemed to be popular during these crisis, showing good leadership.

Going back to what I wrote on page 1 about the by-election in Vic that resulted in a 4% swing to Labor: Why was the electorate in that seat not concerned about Federal issues? Was it because they weren't whipped into a frenzy about them? I am assuming that in Qld, the LNP's campaign contained a fair dose of negativity about Federal matters?

I am not pretending for a moment that Labor could have retained power in Qld if the electorate voted purely on State issues, but I just wonder if it would have made much difference to the swing. I guess we'll never know.

How long had labor been in when the vic state election was on?
People might not have been to worried if it was only early days.

 

[Eager]

You would have to have been a resident in Queensland, Eager, to understand all the reasons why we have absolutely had it with the ALP.

Fair enough.

 

[Eager]

It was all an act and a good one too. It made a good story for the media.

I think that is a fairly malicious statement. I'm not sure how anyone could adopt a posturing attitude during that period (except maybe, Abbott).

I hope you can gain the quality of compassion during your living years.

 

[Calliope]

I think that is a fairly malicious statement. I'm not sure how anyone could adopt a posturing attitude during that period (except maybe, Abbott).

I hope you can gain the quality of compassion during your living years.

If ever a woman deserved her fate it was Bligh. Of course her flood posture was an act. She was hamming it up for the cameras...a media tart. Under pressure her truly viscous nature came out.

I know you are smarting over the result, but I have little compassion for gullible Bligh fans.

 

[bunyip]

I was amused to see Bligh & Co begging voters for mercy after the CMC effectively squashed the smear campaign against Newman by finding that he had no case to answer. That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a government ‘run up the white flag’ by admitting in their campaign adds that they were going to lose, and imploring voters to go easy on them by not giving too much power to the victors.

It’s heartening to see that the unions can think for themselves for a change by voting out an ALP government, instead of swallowing the age old garbage that Labor is the workers party that always works in the best interests of workers.

Good riddance to Bligh and Co, ditto for Gillard and her motley crew at the next Federal election – with any luck she’ll go the same way as Bligh.