Sorry Red , I disagree . I believe oil stocks have been treated just the same as gold stocks , held back . I'm rather critical at the behaviour on the markets major particpants ( instos etc. ) , they try very hard to create false realities . It's the models they have I'm sure , well that would be the legal excuse .
If anything some funds etc. would be taking up the drops in oilers etc. , those that have allocation room . Lot of overweight financials still out there , but those models have been run for decades . Margin calls or just weak markets always see everything suffer though .
These stocks are talked down and bought , then talked up and sold , it's quasi legal ramping enmasse and Keystone cops police it , because it is a manipulation of a market .
If it didn't happen these sector stocks would be through the roof and the main market participants would have been caught under weight .
Soaring prices force US to cut aid
March 02, 2008
THE US will drastically reduce emergency food aid to some of the poorest countries this year due to soaring food prices, The Washington Post reports today.
Citing unnamed officials, the newspaper said the US Agency for International Development (USAID) was drafting plans to cut down the number of recipient nations and the amount of food provided to them.
A 41 per cent surge in prices of wheat, corn, rice and other cereals over the past six months has generated a $US120 million ($126.5 million) budget shortfall that will force the USAID to reduce emergency operations, the report said.
That deficit is projected to rise to $US200 million ($211 million) by the end of the year.
My view is that the 3 attempts at $100 may indicate a short term weakness. I'm no t/a expert, but a triple top is bearish, is that correct, anyone? Or is it purely a by product of $US weakness and speculators?
also does anyone know how to get oil and/or gold price charts on incredible charts (or is there another free charting service that gives you these??)
thanks
The stupidity of turning food into fuel. Do the math and you'lll soon realise it's not just unsustainable but an outright farce. See my previous posts on the subject for more detail.I mentioned earlier that the price of food and oil are now inseperable and will surely result in starvation, seems to be ringing a little more true after reading this ...
No-one has been able to answer my question on here from 3 months ago.
If oil is heading to 120 plus which looks likely, why aren't the oil stocks whether producer/explorer moving much higher??
Instead, they are moving lower, some much lower.
No-one has bought into the trend yet, but why?
OPEC has held its output steady, clearly signifying it has no interest in global price concerns that could stymie demand.
Kauri's above link is yet another warning that things have got ahead of themselves, and could come back: Similar to warnings that have opened new threads on this forum - and where the markets have shown ongoing disdain for them.
Markets are cyclical, and we would be silly to not be vigilant given oil is at record price levels.
However, my view is always to consider what forces will drive prices in the opposite direction, and what strength those forces have.
Presently there are two major negative forces: Potential demand weakness stemming fro the US subprime fiasco, and the (unknown) contribution of speculation to the fundamental price of oil.
On the first point, given that US oil inventories declined recently when a rise was expected, whatever demand concerns exist, they are not severe, nor are they persistent.
On the point of speculation, if we had significant price volatility in oil on a regular basis, I would say the speculators were important price contributors. Instead the oil price patterns are consistent enough to suggest a reasonably "ordered" oil market where spot and futures are providing market players with confidence rather than concern, albeit the oil price is now very high.
No proof but my alteration in bold fits more with what many have been saying for years than some apparent suddden desire to intentionally put themselves out of business as most seem to be suggesting.OPEC has held its output steady, clearly signifying it has no ability to increase production.
Oil hits new record high and presently trades at $107.No proof but my alteration in bold fits more with what many have been saying for years than some apparent suddden desire to intentionally put themselves out of business as most seem to be suggesting.
This might resolve "won't versus can't" increase output.AFX News Limited
Cheney to urge Saudi Arabia to cool oil prices via OPEC crude production boost 10.3.08, 10:24 AM ET
I'll consider it proof that they have unused capacity if:Oil hits new record high and presently trades at $107.
GWB is sending VP Cheney to the OPEC big guns to help out:
This might resolve "won't versus can't" increase output.
I don't think the speculators have much control over oil prices at moment.It's a bit like the US Fed, they (the oil producers) have lost control of the situation. The oil price is determined by the specs now as the fundamentals (at this point in time) do not align with price momentum. When the specs hit the exits it will be breathtaking. Until then.......great trading.
PS the oil stocks still lagging the action, still?? What gives? WPL a great day trade these days.
The USA is already in recession.
The simple fact is, the price of oil has not INCREASED.
The value of the dollar has DECREASED.
Increasing speculation
With inflation at their backs and equity markets slumping, investment funds have rushed into the oil market recently.
Recent data from futures regulators showed speculation in the oil market is increasing. Investors have turned to commodities as a safe haven from slumping equity markets and inflation, which is partly fed by the weaker dollar.
Government data showed speculators and managers of large investment funds, those who don't need physical oil, dominated bets on rising oil prices. Refiners and other oil users were betting oil prices would move lower.
The latest data from U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission showed long positions from speculators, in which investors expect oil prices to move higher, outnumbered short positions, or bets on lower prices, by nearly 100,000 contracts last week. Net long positions more than tripled in one month.
This was the fourth consecutive week marking an increase in net long positions from financial traders.
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