NSW Election 2023

[SirRumpole]

I thought it was quite telling that Labour never brought this gaffe up during the election campaign. Classy. I gather Perrott fessed up because it seems it was going to come out anyway.
If everyone was going to made "accountable" for how they dressed up at a 21st fancy dress party there would be no one left in politics.

Indeed, parodying Nazis is a sign of contempt for them, same with any other parody.

However, that is one regime that should be allowed to die in the dust imo.

 

[wayneL]

Indeed, parodying Nazis is a sign of contempt for them, same with any other parody.

However, that is one regime that should be allowed to die in the dust imo.

Hmmm, if it sort of gets erased too much there is no reminder of where not to go.

Sort of like communism, very little on the awfulness of the soviets, pol pot and mao these days, so many people are embracing it, without realising it was as bad, if not worse, than the third Reich.

 

[farmerge]

I thought it was quite telling that Labour never brought this gaffe up during the election campaign. Classy. I gather Perrott fessed up because it seems it was going to come out anyway.
If everyone was going to made "accountable" for how they dressed up at a 21st fancy dress party there would be no one left in politics.

Shades of that miserable creton Al Grassby dressed for a clowns do every time

 

[farmerge]

Indeed, parodying Nazis is a sign of contempt for them, same with any other parody.

However, that is one regime that should be allowed to die in the dust imo.

Sir R die in the dust and then concreted over

 

[mullokintyre]

Interesting that similar to what happened in the Victorian election, theredoes not appear to be a teal wave in the NSW election.
Either its a purely Federal Phenomenon, or people have decided the Teals are all about looking after the teals rather than the rest of the population. I guess we will find out in a few years when the next federal election pops up.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

Interesting that similar to what happened in the Victorian election, theredoes not appear to be a teal wave in the NSW election.
Either its a purely Federal Phenomenon, or people have decided the Teals are all about looking after the teals rather than the rest of the population. I guess we will find out in a few years when the next federal election pops up.
Mick

Could be a general perception that climate change is a Federal responsibility whereas States look after basic services like health and education that the teals have no policy on.

 

[mullokintyre]

I see that the little snake Matt Kean has declined to run for leader.
After undermining all and sundry, the former deputy leader knows that whoever takes the leadership wlil likely fail at the next election and possibly the one after that.
So he will decline , and sit back sniping as he positions himself for the leadership contest in the aftermath of the next election.
Mick

 

[wayneL]

I see that the little snake Matt Kean has declined to run for leader.
After undermining all and sundry, the former deputy leader knows that whoever takes the leadership wlil likely fail at the next election and possibly the one after that.
So he will decline , and sit back sniping as he positions himself for the leadership contest in the aftermath of the next election.
Mick

He should run for the Greens

 

[SirRumpole]

I see that the little snake Matt Kean has declined to run for leader.
After undermining all and sundry, the former deputy leader knows that whoever takes the leadership wlil likely fail at the next election and possibly the one after that.
So he will decline , and sit back sniping as he positions himself for the leadership contest in the aftermath of the next election.
Mick

Or conveniently resign to a job on the Board of some multinational.

 

[PZ99]

I see that the little snake Matt Kean has declined to run for leader.
After undermining all and sundry, the former deputy leader knows that whoever takes the leadership wlil likely fail at the next election and possibly the one after that.
So he will decline , and sit back sniping as he positions himself for the leadership contest in the aftermath of the next election.
Mick

I did read somewhere he wanted to go federal if they lost the election.

 

[mullokintyre]

I did read somewhere he wanted to go federal if they lost the election.

I presume perhaps it was This Guardian article?
Those unnamed sources again.
Always reliable.
Mick

 

[farmerge]

Interesting that similar to what happened in the Victorian election, theredoes not appear to be a teal wave in the NSW election.
Either its a purely Federal Phenomenon, or people have decided the Teals are all about looking after the teals rather than the rest of the population. I guess we will find out in a few years when the next federal election pops up.
Mick

Were there any Teals standing in the NSW election yesterday.

 

[farmerge]

Could be a general perception that climate change is a Federal responsibility whereas States look after basic services like health and education that the teals have no policy on.

Didn't know that the Teals had much policy formation anyway.

 

[mullokintyre]

Were there any Teals standing in the NSW election yesterday.

That hypenated bloke from Climate 200 chucked a fair bit of dough into the wealthy female elite set from blue ribbon Lib held seats for possibly only one seat.
Interestingly, the lucky Simon is on of those silver spooned folks who inherited his money, has not really had to do any work to be able to splash around his fathers generated wealth. But that really belongs in the Tax thread.
From The Australian

Simon Holmes a Court has staunchly defended his so-called teal candidates from criticism of weak results in the NSW election, with the Climate-200 backed candidates yet to secure victory in any of their target seats.
Despite months of talk of the Climate 200-backed independents taking electorates from the Liberal Party, no “teal wave” washed over the polls, with just one teal candidate in line to steal a traditionally blue-ribbon seat.

Wollondilly’s Judy Hannan could be the only teal upset of the election, and is expected to oust Liberal incumbent Nathaniel Smith with a 9 per cent swing against the government.
In Lane Cove, outgoing planning minister Anthony Roberts defeated teal Victoria Davidson.
A similar fate was suffered by North Shore teal candidate Helen Conway, who lost to the Liberals’ Felicity Wilson, and Manly candidate Joeline Hackman, who was defeated by outgoing environment minister James Griffin.
But Mr Holmes a Court said it would take the teals a couple of elections to win over blue-ribbon seats.
READ MORE: Teal appeal is federal and their state strategy is all wrong | Teal, One Nation wave a NSW election washout
“History shows it generally takes communities two elections to build to a win,” he said.
“Before Zali Steggal there was James Mathison, before Sophie Scamps there was Alice Thompson, before Monique Ryan there was Oliver Yates.”

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He said the “community independents movement” was young, and voters were increasingly turning to better political representation for better outcomes.
“The independent vote is rising and the role of independents in shaping major party policies on climate and gambling reform will have long-lasting implications on NSW,” he said.
Ms Hannan, the only teal south of the CBD, said the increasing popularity of independent candidates was due to voters being “sick and tired of being taken for granted”.
“(Wollondilly) has never had appropriate amounts of money spent on it, or attention given to it,” she said.

“It’s the most beautiful area with amazing people, but we don’t get any help from government at all. That’s about to change.”
She joined Wakehurst independent Michael Regan – who is not affiliated with the teal movement – as the second independent to overthrow a Liberal safe seat. Mr Regan foiled Liberal candidate Toby Williams’ plan to replace longstanding health minister Brad Hazzard in the lower house.
As of Sunday afternoon, the northern beaches seat of Pittwater was still on a knife’s edge between teal candidate Jacqui Scruby and Liberal Rory Amon. If Ms Scruby is successful, it will mean the two state seats, Pittwater and Wakehurst, under federal teal independent for Mackellar Sophie Scamps are both independently held.

The teals strategically targeted the electorates won by several independents who helped to sweep out Scott Morrison’s government at the federal election last May.
While the teal’s efforts may not have won them many electorates, by targeting Liberal safe seats and forcing the Coalition to divert resources they may have catapulted Labor to victory, pollsters said.
“(The teals) drew resources away from the Liberal Party, forcing them to focus on traditional safe seats instead of marginal seats,” University of Sydney politics lecturer Stewart Jackson said.
“All the Labor Party had to do was focus on western Sydney and a bit in Balmain.”
RedBridge director of research and policy Simon Welsh agreed, saying the teals “would have contributed in the sense of time and resources within the Liberal campaign being sucked into have to defend blue-ribbon seats”.

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Mick

 

[PZ99]

I presume perhaps it was This Guardian article?
Those unnamed sources again.
Always reliable.
Mick

Well obviously it was reliable because the same thing was posted on Sky News today and they're never wrong are they ?

In any case it was google news where I saw it, not Guardian.

 

[mullokintyre]

Well obviously it was reliable because the same thing was posted on Sky News today and they're never wrong are they ?

In any case it was google news where I saw it, not Guardian.

Have no idea, I never watch sky news.
Mick

 

[PZ99]

Have no idea, I never watch sky news.
Mick

Smart move.

 

[Craton]

Ah politics and elections, fanscinating, polarising and never dull.
ABC swing stats.

My electorate of Barwon once a Nats stronghold, has shunned the major parties for two elections in a row. Ex SFF Roy Butler has garnered what I'd call a landslide. Geez, even the Legalise Cannabis candidate has twice the vote of the Greens.

ABC Barwon stats. Nearly 24hr old though.

Will Labor be able to secure the two more seats for a majority?
That is the question.

ABC current results stat.

 

[Knobby22]

Ah politics and elections, fanscinating, polarising and never dull.
ABC swing stats.

My electorate of Barwon once a Nats stronghold, has shunned the major parties for two elections in a row. Ex SFF Roy Butler has garnered what I'd call a landslide. Geez, even the Legalise Cannabis candidate has twice the vote of the Greens.

ABC Barwon stats. Nearly 24hr old though.

Will Labor be able to secure the two more seats for a majority?
That is the question.

ABC current results stat.

Where are all the independents, in old labor or Coalition seats?

 

[Craton]

Where are all the independents, in old labor or Coalition seats?

Weren't all the seats either labor or coalition back in the day?

LC candidates

LA candidates You will need to DYOR for each electorate.

FWIW - Wikipedia and Australian political parties

Anyways, seems to me the indies are just about everywhere.