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New Citizenship Requirements

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As well as been able to speak english & an appreciation of Australian values, what else do you think appropriate ?

This is your chance to say what requisites are needed.
 


It almost doesn’t matter what anybody has to say, if ethnic groups say it is discriminatory.
 
From ABC, December 12, 2006



If many visitors can speak English, why our citizens shouldn’t?
 
A couple of weeks ago there was a list in the Brisbane paper of some of the questions aspiring immigrants would be asked in order to be accepted. They were about Australian history mostly.

I couldn't answer any. Does this make me a bad citizen?

I'm very doubtful about this whole idea. Can see the government's reasoning but fear in practice it will just not work. Agree also that it will wipe out a lot of people coming in on genuine humanitarian reasons.

I honestly don't see why knowing when the first fleet arrived is going to make someone a hard working, decent Australian citizen.

Julia
 
hi folks
I heard that some of the requirements were being able open a bottle with a cigarette lighter, Basic BBQ cooking, How to watch cricket, How to say six with out laughing and the difference between a Ford and a Holden and why this is important.
Just a kiwi view of aussie life.
Cheers martin
 
What a bl00dy boring place Australia would be if the English settlers had sent the Irish home, killed off all the aborigines & let no one else in. APart from the fact that most of us wouldn't exist, HOW BL00DY BORING!

No matter what your political leanings, vote against politicians who push racism by stealth!!!!

These new rules are pure political point scoring off the really ignorant, head in the sand, one nation supporting wallys who tipped politics to the far right when they voted en masse for miss "please explain" & her party.
 
Immigration Restriction Act 1901:
 
Notice that Kevin Rudd is sitting on the fence at this stage on this, he knows the majority of voters like this idea.

Maybe Pauline will suggest ~ beer swilling with meat pies as well ?
 
Bobby said:
Notice that Kevin Rudd is sitting on the fence at this stage on this, he knows the majority of voters like this idea.

Maybe Pauline will suggest ~ beer swilling with meat pies as well ?

Kevin Rudd has entered "dreamtime"
bout which way to fly
in time he'll tell, but in the meantime
keep his Rudder dry.
 
I honestly don't see why knowing when the first fleet arrived is going to make someone a hard working, decent Australian citizen.

The test is just a smoke screen to 'lawfully' stop anyone they don't want to enter the country. What's wrong with that?

Let's not pretend that all ethnic communities here in Australia want to intergrate. Intergration doesn't mean losing ones cultural and religious beliefs. One can say Australia has benefitted enourmously from multi-culturalism.

Events like Cronulla have been the result of years of frustation towards non-anglo-celts who have hidden behind multi-culturalism to do what they want and then screamed 'racism' when they didn't get their way. No wonder many anglo-celts are feeling frustated that they're becoming second class citizens in their own country.

The losers here are those who have embraced Australia, mingled and mixed while holding onto their customs and traditions without forcing it onto anyone else.

I find it hilarous that people would label such tests' as racism when 'reverse racism' (I hate that term since it implies only whites are racist, a racist is a racist regardless of skin colour FULL STOP) is what's driving these 'initiations' in the first place!

Had we all gotten along then the majority of Australians would've laughed at such suggestions of a test.

Spy v Spy sang 'Tony is an angry boy, he doesn’t like the people next door,
doesn’t understand them, doesn’t understand what they stand for.

Looking through the fence, he see's things, simple and strange, different colours than him, with different eyes, and different names.'

Well there's a flipside that the Spy's forgot. Tony wouldn't be so xenophobic had his neighbours opened up and mingled with him, rather than holding their own stereotypical views of 'Aussies' (read RACISM) and living secular lives.

Oh, and for the record I'm not a 'skip'...
 
Thanks to Cronulla events, now you not only have beach patrolled by life savers, but police in helicopter, buggy and on bikes and on foot.

Top security paradise, you could even try to leave wallet unattended, providing some smarties don’t make to Cronulla beach.
 
I forgot to add, all this talk about failing History tests' is a disgrace on our education system which thought it was more important that we learn about ancient Greeks and Rome rather than what happened in our own backyard.

I feel lucky to have learnt a little about colonial Australia but feel we should have learnt more about the 19th century.

To think most of us learnt that Barton was our first PM via a tv commerical, when thanks to US tv we know all about the civil war and most of us can probably list more US Presidents than Aussie PM's! What a shame.
 
Load of Rubbish.

Each new generation brings with it a different set of values, generally opposing the previous.

If the generation I grew up in (60/70s) were to express the political views of that generation today, we would all be joining Hicks (though no doubt a lot of us still hold those views).

By the same token respect for authority & family we would receive a medal.

So the values of todays generation, which I presume any test would be based on, would be irrelevent in tomorrows generation, even traitorous.

Cheers
 
If the generation I grew up in (60/70s) were to express the political views of that generation today, we would all be joining Hicks (though no doubt a lot of us still hold those views).

Not sure I understand Coyote, call it a 'generation gap' thing ;-) but it sounds as if you're saying the left-wingers of yesteryear are so frustrated with current Australian political policies they'd quite willingly hook up with a regime worse than ours to help them destroy the evil West? Probably explains why so many left of the middle are sympathetic to Hicks

So the values of todays generation, which I presume any test would be based on, would be irrelevent in tomorrows generation, even traitorous.
I wouldn't presume anything, because such a presumption implies that only Gen Y and Gen Next are interested in migration, and I'm pretty sure they're not the only ones.

Interesting reading in the Weekend FR. Harry Triguoff (owner of never buy a dud Meriton apartment) disagrees with the government! Apparently we need more 'slaves' here to do the dirty work we don't wanna do and of course fill in the void of the thousands of apartments he's putting up...had to be a twist eh?
 

This test should allow later on revoking citizenship if actions do not correspond with <memorised required responses>

So test is not all-bad idea.
 
Happy said:
From ABC, December 12, 2006




If many visitors can speak English, why our citizens shouldn’t?

If your over 65 you dont need to speak english (I think), they're too old to learn to speak english. They could of been here with their family for years but do there business overseas. Coming here to retire, kids and family are already citizens, so why should they be denied? Plus many of those ppl back then would of done a financial immigration, which means they had to pay a certain amount or have a certain amount of $$$ in Australia = helping the Australia Finance, so once again why should they be denied cause they cant speak english, when they are probably offering more to the country than the ones living off centrelink...

Just my opinion.
 
The age part I was told by a IMMI officer who handles citizenship forms on a daily basis, and the other part is just what I think, as I have seen it, My uncle has invested well over a million dollars in Australia, tax he pays = def more than me x 100!!!, and his whole family is australian citizen so, why shouldn't he be allowed to be citizen just cause hes got bad english?


 
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