I don't believe that copper will be good for another 100 years.
It's only been here some 50 (or 60) or so years and it's already stuffed.
What!! your phone isn't working.lol
What train do i prefer (what's the better train)? The Waratah...imagine the out cry if the government decided to simply upgrade the old crappy trains with fixed up old crappy trains.
With regards to the physical state of Telstra's copper network, has it been audited in any meaningful form, by anyone ?
On another note, I saw on the ABC a blue (fibre optic ?) cable being laid into a pit with a lot of water in it. This was during a news segment on the state of Telstra's copper network.
Not that I know of. There is a Telstra worker who documents some of it on his travels:
http://www.canofworms.org/coppermine/
No problem laying fibre in water. They do try to keep the joins dry though to prevent signal loss.
What train do i prefer (what's the better train)? The Waratah...imagine the out cry if the government decided to simply upgrade the old crappy trains with fixed up old crappy trains.
And those trains were paid for by all people, including those who would never use them.
I think we can say with some confidence that the average 35 year old train has paid for its self about a dozen times over, i pay $150 a month to travel on those pieces of ****.
With regards to the physical state of Telstra's copper network, has it been audited in any meaningful form, by anyone ?
On another note, I saw on the ABC a blue (fibre optic ?) cable being laid into a pit with a lot of water in it. This was during a news segment on the state of Telstra's copper network.
Or, you could go and live in Mumbai for 12 months and catch the daily rattlers there, to see whether the standard of living we enjoy here with regard to train travel is actually satisfactory in comparison?
Parliament Arguing About Copper Wires In 1910 Makes For Some Amazing Reading
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/06/parliament-arguing-about-copper-wires-in-1910-makes-for-some-amazing-reading/
James Mathews MP:
Some time ago I met a gentleman who came here from the Old Country, who ridiculed the expensive practice of using copper wire where iron wire would do...
Thomas Brown MP
Copper is used for greater efficiency.
James Mathews MP:
The practical men in the Department, not the theorists, think that nothing is gained by using copper wire for short lines. Some of the iron wire lines have been in use for thirty years, and give as good results now as copper wire lines. Last year an iron wire line, put up when I was a boy, to connect the Age office with Mr. David Syme’s house on the Yarra, at Hawthorn, was still giving satisfactory results, although for a good part of its length it ran parallel with the railway line, and was exposed to the smoke of locomotives, which was prejudicial to its life.
Malcolm Turnbull MP:
Some time ago I met a gentleman who came here from the Old Country, who ridiculed the expensive practice of using optical fibre where copper wire would do...
Sen Stephen Conroy
optical fibre is used for greater efficiency.
Malcolm Turnbull MP:
The practical men in the Department, not the theorists, think that nothing is gained by using optical fibre for short lines. Some of the copper wire lines have been in use for thirty years, and give as good results now as optical fibre lines. Last year an copper wire line, put up when I was a boy, to connect the Age office with Mr. David Syme’s house on the Yarra, at Hawthorn, was still giving satisfactory results, although for a good part of its length it ran parallel with the railway line, and was exposed to the smoke of locomotives, which was prejudicial to its life.
I suspect that when my great-grand children look back on the hansards and newspapers of 2013, the Abbott brigade will look rather stupid.
Gee. I wonder how the Gillard rabble will look in comparison?
So, how's that NBN rollout going Myths? On time, on target?
Don't forget the pink batts and a profitable illegal people smuggling business model through SE Asia.However, it will remember the 23,000 new school buildings, the renewable energy generation, the Optical Fibre NBN (even if incomplete), the 12% superannuation and DisabilityCare.
With regard to the physical state of Telstra's copper network, it's clear from the above posts that no one knows it's actual state. That could mean that a Liberal government could end up laying more fibre than it's current plan suggests, but at the same time it's not confirmation that the copper should be discarded as a whole based on it's physical state.
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