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National poverty - The new normal?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by basilio, Jul 31, 2017.

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  1. SirRumpole

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  2. Wysiwyg

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    All those American workers getting robbed blind to boost company profits, line Executive's pockets and pay for the war machine. Oh and don't forget the trillions in debt.
     
  3. moXJO

    moXJO menace to society

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    Lawyers run unions and the bosses use the workers money for their pet grievances or to feather their nest.
    They ain't the workers.
    They partner up with bosses for whats best for each other.
    Workers are the cash cows everyone else feeds of.

    There are some good unions and union reps.

    Pretty sure I didn't mention workers either.
    Which side of Vietnam you get stuck on luu?
     
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    Those are the good kind of debts - freedom and democracy kind. Debt incurred to employ people to build infrastructure, or pay for healthcare and education... that's the bad kind of debt - it helps poor people too much.
     
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    Wait... union reps aren't a representative from the workers? I seriously didn't know that. All these time I thought all union reps beside very higher ups are also workers. A sort of team leader whereas the likes of Julia Gillards and Bill Shorten only does the legal/corporate organisation work.

    It's like a democracy where our representatives all have rich friends, we ain't one of them but they seriously know our pain :cautious:


    My maternal grandparents came from the North during the 1954 partition. They were orphans adopted by the Catholic Church during one of the wars and I guess they preferred the Catholic president down South at the time.
     
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    Unfortunately for some the present world is going through a lot of changes. Peoples debts are often those derived from the new tech society that requires children to have very expensive items bought for them. It is in fact poverty forced upon them.
     
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    Yep its a case of not keep up with the Jones but hey I want a new Iphone lol. This world is totally f ucked up, oh and don't forget our friends the social media and reality tv lol
    No reality in this world just greedy self serving jerks.
     
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    You know you are being a parrot. How about you substantiate your belief, just like you insist Tink does when it comes to her own choice of skyfairies, myths and legends?

    So far you are just coming across as inculcated into family or LNP tradition. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I have doubts you have any dealings with union bosses and fail to understand that union members are many and for all intents and purposes good people by most measures.

    Throwing in nonsense from Toyota is just that
     
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    Sorry but I've been in the game 25 years. I know bosses on a personal level. I don't need to "substantiate" anything. It's already all out in the open.

    Sorry but many unions are sick from the top down. Been to any union meetings or rallies lately? I doubt it. There has been a shift over the last 15 years and a bigger one over the last 5.
    Even members are complaining.

    My experiences are through direct dealings. I've even done a few bosses houses.

    I think you might have mixed up posters or posts
     
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    Yes every Enterprise Agreement is a battle to maintain what workers have versus the companies manipulation of numbers and sleight of wording to take away workers rights (yes workers do have rights).
    Agree there was corruption exposed which seems to go hand in hand when dealing with finances and contracts in many institutions around the world. Throw them out or jail them as necessary.
     
  11. crackajack

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    True but you try living on 267 a week, not easy.
     
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    Unions are
    Unions are a waste of space. Run by corrupt mafia thugs and about as uselful as tits on a bull much like our politicians
     
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    They are still needed even in the current form because companies are just as bad. They keep each other in check. Unfortunately both, well all three (including the govt) gouge the workers.
     
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    I will take your word for personal experience, but unless you have dealt with all the union bosses/or adhesion of those unions you listed you can't speak with authority on them, only speculate based on the few being representative of the many. It's like branding all males as ar5esholes, because one member on here doesn't agree with the tenure of my posts :rolleyes:
     
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    If the rots at the top then yes, every member is responsible. I'd rather end my response on unions right about now anyway.
     
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    does australia have another political party other than liberal and labor?
     
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    Not easy but not impossible. Plus they can get food hand outs and other donations like clothes for free. Not to mention all their medical requirements are covered for free too.

    In some countries they get ZERO and they have only their family to rely on. If they have no family then they become beggars and other people buy and give them food and water to survive. They sleep under bridges, awnings and just await their slow death, that is real poverty. I spend a lot of time overseas and have seen it so often.
     
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    I recently noticed my middle aged neighbours, who own a water front property and house on the waterfront have splashed out on a new Bayliner, new car, new kitchen and a new water tank to wash the new boat.

    The trouble I have with it is they have zip furniture, wear tattered clothes, live on fish and baked beans style diet and have an endless supply of alcohol storage and consumption. Lovely people, but I know they are leveraged to the tune of over a million$ and they spend a lot of time with another middle aged neighbour who was born into wealth and prosperity .

    I really hope for the best of this couple, but by my measure the balance sheet looks sick to me.

    Poverty has many faces
     
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