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I agree that it's simple and perfectly sensible.I have repeated myself so many times and you don't seem to get it. No I did not say that you do not have no morals. What I have been saying consistently is that without reference to absolutes, morality then is relative. What is right for one may be wrong to another but you have no basis to say your morals are better than someone else's.
Really quite simple I would have thought.
I have repeated myself so many times and you don't seem to get it. No I did not say that you do not have no morals. What I have been saying consistently is that without reference to absolutes, morality then is relative. What is right for one may be wrong to another but you have no basis to say your morals are better than someone else's.
Really quite simple I would have thought.
Read my post first then have another go at attempting this one.
You said " Morality without reference to absolutes is meaningless."
And I said "So are you saying that if I do not have a reference point to a fixed perspective that I have no morals?"
I love it when it gets to a he said, she said thread ... don't you?
My morals tell mne it IS NOT OK to strap explosives to your body and blow yourself up. If your morals think this is Ok then my advice is for you to do it well away from me.
I agree that it's simple and perfectly sensible.
Maybe accept that to some perpetuating the argument is just sport.
Oh, enough of this cryptic, obscure stuff, ktrianta. Let's get this sorted out.
So that we can all move on, you should yourself define what is right and wrong to you.
Hopefully that will then allow you to finally answer the question originally posed in this thread.
If that's all too hard (translation: you prefer to continue avoiding the issue) then might be best if you withdraw from the thread, given that your contribution really is not contributing in any constructive fashion.
However, I'd much prefer to see you outline your moral views as suggested above.
With thanks.
I like how we have drawn paedophilia and a purple flying unicorn PLUS my very low IQ into this deabte.
Bwahahah aha ahha ha ha aha h ah (insert maniacal laugh here)
Hey sunder ... read my post on "hard wired behavioural patterns for mammals" it might help you somewhat.
God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
My morals tell me it IS NOT OK to strap explosives to your body and blow yourself up. If your morals think this is Ok then my advice is for you to do it well away from me.
Your morals tell you that. A fundamentalist Muslim's morals tell him it is.
A fundamentalist Muslim's morals tells him it IS NOT OK to sleep with a woman before marriage. Yours probably tells you it is.
Who is right, if you have no absolute arbiter?
What right does he have to possibly injure and kill? What right do you have to possibly break someone's heart/leave them with a disease/or an unwanted child?
Think I will just take Julia's advice and walk away. .
Whoa UP sunder !! You saying OK to blow yourself up because we don't have a reference point compared to hitting a roll in the sack?
REREAD my post on the mammal behaviour thing. It is very clear that RELIGION shapes us to perform these acts.
Your morals tell you that. A fundamentalist Muslim's morals tell him it is.
A fundamentalist Muslim's morals tells him it IS NOT OK to sleep with a woman before marriage. Yours probably tells you it is.
Who is right, if you have no absolute arbiter?
What right does he have to possibly injure and kill? What right do you have to possibly break someone's heart/leave them with a disease/or an unwanted child?
Checkout psalm 137 chapters 8 & 9 . Come back and tell me it's OK to do that to little kiddies and I will reckon you are OK in my book.
Hey sunder , why do they have no protection of animals in Muslims countries like we do ( RSPCA ) its because they don't give a **** ! about them .
Would you like to be the arbiter of this ?
Post #287 page 15 is where I alluded to mammal behavioural patterns, not that far back in the thread.
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