Knew a bloke
an intelligent happy go lucky sort of bloke
wasnt himself for over a year , knew there was something wrong as in just didnt seem to have the same drive in him anymore . rather lie on the lounge all day , couldnt be bothered doing stuff he loved , ie fishing , mixing it up with his kids etc etc....had no enjoyment left in his life actually
finally he reached out and approached a doctor for help as he had come to the end of his tether and KNEW there was something seriously wrong with his thought processes
the doctor accused said patient as being a "drug seeker " as said fella went about his plea for help with a lil humour....... said doctor made said patient feel 2 inches tall and patient was a proud man not used to being accused of rubbish by strangers......
um the ending to this story is a lil unconventional
anyways ....... said patient lost the plot in doctors surgery as he was wild that he had finally went to seek helpand was denied and accused of something sordid .... um he gave the doctor a shove and a few choice words
the cops were called and he was whisked away .. on being whisked away he explained to the cops why he had done it , he broke down and blubbered all his woes to aresting officers , .,.... the arresting officers organised for a GP to examine said patient while in lockup and was promptly medicated and issued with some form of anti depressant
tis a strange world we live and this said fella is actually considered a respected and highly admired businessman in his field ........
can happen to anyone at anytime ...... he didnt even notice his lack of enjoyment or angst in his everyday thinking until it had gone so far ......
the thing is tho . HE knew there was something wrong with him
So how is he doing now? Is he ok and happier?--Did he recover?
some here just dont get it do they ?
Depression is a bona fide illness it aint something u get just because ya havin a hard day /week/month/year
ive watched a person VERY close to me have it all , houses , kids , wife , money the whole lot ...... sit there and not have the oomf to get out of his loungeroom for a month , no showers ,sporadic eating , forgot how to actually smile anymore . HE KNEW he had it all , he knew he was fortunate , he knew that he was bloody ill ........he didnt know why nor understand why
its got nothing to do with ones circumstances (which may set the ball in motion but in normal fuctioning thought process , one defeats or overcomes or ignores the negativity) it is a genuine imbalance of ones brain chemicals .
i am no doctor but i know what i have seen and HIS illness was not because he had a bad day.
rather sad actually seeing it BUT seeing him back to his normal self was even better
some ppl dont recover
Depression has nothing to do with personal wealth.
Plenty of poor people are happy, plenty of rich people have depression, imagine what it's like when you cant get happy when you have money ?
Exercise does help, gets the endorphins going, walk 45 mins every day.
yep actually
he underwent a course of anti depressants for around 8 months/year somethin like that
it altered his whole outlook on life and just gave him the pep to get back out there and rejoin life, after his medication was over he was already back in the swing of things and just continued on enjoying the days regardless if they were good or bad ....
i have known ppl that depression is a recurring problem for them but this dude been right as rain for a few years now and just cruising along a little bit wiser to himself
So that's not a flaw, it actually supports my argument.The flaw in your argument is that it's all relative, and that even the privileged, in their mind, can be worse off than those who may be worse off from the common perspective.
You underestimate the attachment many people will have to their own lives. Far fewer would be willing to trade than you think. Wanting much of what someone else has is not equal to wanting to be them. Many of those 5.5 billion enjoy their life and family, despite not being as well off as you are.
In the end, the most important thing for most people is happiness, and socio-economic status and standard of living do not guarantee that. Have you been to many third world or developing countries? If not, you'd be surprised how happy many of them are.
Many third worlds are happ
It can be suggested that their lack of attachment to material possessions allows them to understand what is important in life, and therefore allows them to be happier than many of us.
So that's not a flaw, it actually supports my argument.
Maybe I didn't communicate it as well as I could have.
It doesn't matter what has happened to you, how bad things are, how worse things could get, it is highly likely that there is someone who deserves pity more so then yourself. So cheer up and get on with life because ultimately you are only wasting it by being depressed and sorry for yourself.
You would have to be dying from cancer, in a wheelchair with no friends or family before you could say you would be one of the worst off people in the world.
Yes I have seen third worlds and yes for the most part people with no material possessions are far happier people in a day to day sense.
That is what I meant about Aussies not knowing how lucky they are.
When people are worried about not getting a payrise or not being able to afford the repayments on their 2nd car or overly lavish house, it shows how well off the country is.
I honestly think as a nation we could take a step back and stop being such wankers on a whole.
some here just dont get it do they ?
Depression is a bona fide illness it aint something u get just because ya havin a hard day /week/month/year
ive watched a person VERY close to me have it all , houses , kids , wife , money the whole lot ...... sit there and not have the oomf to get out of his loungeroom for a month , no showers ,sporadic eating , forgot how to actually smile anymore . HE KNEW he had it all , he knew he was fortunate , he knew that he was bloody ill ........he didnt know why nor understand why
its got nothing to do with ones circumstances (which may set the ball in motion but in normal fuctioning thought process , one defeats or overcomes or ignores the negativity) it is a genuine imbalance of ones brain chemicals .
i am no doctor but i know what i have seen and HIS illness was not because he had a bad day.
rather sad actually seeing it BUT seeing him back to his normal self was even better
some ppl dont recover
You know I bet it would shock a lot of people when they eventually realise that once they have everything they 'think' will make them happy, they actually don't end up permenatly blissed out.
Maybe this guy figured that since he had everything he should be happy. Found out that he wasn't. Then he had no idea what to do or get in order to be happy.
But happyness is from within not on the outside.
But as you point it can be an actual problem with the person's brain and chemical imbalances and such. So yeah, if it is like that then proper medication and support may be required.
well after reading your posts on this thread i totally agree , YES you should take a step back darl
you have no idea on the causes or illness of depression
I have had depression
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Mate if you want to go through life being sorry for yourself, that is your choice. Just don't ruin my day because of it - keep it to yourself.
LOL unreal
im fine with myself darl .in fact havin a ball dear .
me ruin your day ?? mmmmmmm sounding a lil sensitive m8 ....please dont dwell on it too long tho champ as it may drag on
I personally couldn't be happier.
Got nothing worth complaining about, least of all a petty argument on the internet.
Water off a ducks back.
As the title says is mental illness self diagnosable and how is treatment these days for mental illness?
This is a serious question which I have no patience for crap.
kincella, it might have been that simply for the young men to be cared for and to know someone was working towards better outcomes for them had as much benefit as any dietary changes.there was a youth group here in Melb last year...they took the young men into care....omega 3 and fish and special attention to their diets...the kids went from living off the streets , drugs and depression...to total change in life...back to school or got jobs....
the emphasis was what they lacked in their diets....mood changing, life changing
Your two statements above are contradictory. First you concede that it can be a biochemical problem and then you effectively criticise people who are not able to "push past the feeling".So I agree it is a chemical imbalance in your brain that can cause it and for that reason some people cannot recover from it.
I still maintain that it is about being mentally strong enough to push past the feeling and to think about other peoples circumstances. When you consider how good some people have (ie, they have their health, the love of a family, a house over their head, a well paying job)... yet they still can't be happy - you can't help but wish they would just consider someone else.
With respect, this is one of the most insightless remarks I have ever read.Like I said before, unless you are one of the unluckiest people alive, I see being depressed as one of the most selfish acts possible.
If you seriously think a depressed person (as distinct from someone who is temporarily sad/discontented) can just suddenly say "Whacko, I'm just going to go and snap right out of this crap and start enjoying everything" you simply have no idea of the difference between endogenous and reactive depression.Think positive and start enjoying life because you only get 1 crack at it.
I would probably say to the contrary on this suggestion. If someone is severely depressed, being around happy, bouncy people may only serve to further point up his/her own inability to feel similarly.Very true.
Can also be a lot to do with your peers. If they are depressive and downers then of course it will rub off on you as well.
Surround yourself with positive happy people and that also will rub off on you.
He wasn't being sorry for himself. Nothing to do with his own feelings.Mate if you want to go through life being sorry for yourself, that is your choice. Just don't ruin my day because of it - keep it to yourself.
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