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What exactly about this letter scares you so much?
Well the guy who sent it to me sent it to his Employees back in Janurary.
He has an international business with 14 employees here in Adelaide.
He liciences the production of the product (Graffiti Remover) around most of the world.
I'll ask him if he's lying.
My tone was hardly condescending. It's just an opinion.Excellent--matches your condesending tone.
Well the guy who sent it to me sent it to his Employees back in Janurary.
He has an international business with 14 employees here in Adelaide.
He liciences the production of the product (Graffiti Remover) around most of the world.
I'll ask him if he's lying.
My tone was hardly condescending
Wouldn't surprise me really, he seems like a fair douchebag
Enjoy the beach tech. :bier:
Yes, I think so too. And it's been circulating on the net for many months, probably best part of a year.Yep i agree. Pretty sure it has even been posted here on ASF before in a different thread
Well, thank heaven for a balanced comment. I can't believe how Gordon has been attacked so personally because he dared pass a different opinion.I can understand the sentiment in the letter but I can also see where Gordon is coming from about it sounding bitter.
I can understand the sentiment in the letter but I can also see where Gordon is coming from about it sounding bitter.
I've owned a reasonable sized business with many employee's and it took me a while to realise that no matter how much loyalty or sense of responsibility you might feel towards your employee's and how well you might treat them - the bulk of them probably don't feel much sense of responsibility or loyalty back to yourself or the company and will happily leave mid-project for higher pay or a perceived 'better' job elsewhere, or take a sickie or book a holiday when its convenient for them regardless of what might be going on and what projects they may be involved in, or what presssures the business may be facing etc.
If in business, you need to be enjoying it. This letter does come across as a bit bitter imo. Sure I can understand all of the logic encompassed in the letter but i doubt it would have much of a positive effect on employee's and if someone is really feeling that much pressure and unhappiness in the business, they should probably be selling out and getting that place in the bahama's anyway.
I completely agree about the ridiculousness of the govt handouts and level of taxation (e.g. payroll tax is one of the more aggravating taxes) that impact businesses but I'd see no real value in sending a letter like that out to employees.
But it can be 'lonely at the top' for a business owner no doubt about that. Better bitching/moaning/letting-off-steam to someone else who is in business who will understand, rather than to your employee's imo.
I doubt very much anyone's actually sent it. They may THINK those thoughts...but really, you'd just kill the morale of your employees by sending that.
And an attempt to let employees get a bit of the other side (not that they would really care).
I can understand the sentiment in the letter but I can also see where Gordon is coming from about it sounding bitter.
I've owned a reasonable sized business with many employee's and it took me a while to realise that no matter how much loyalty or sense of responsibility you might feel towards your employee's and how well you might treat them - the bulk of them probably don't feel much sense of responsibility or loyalty back to yourself or the company and will happily leave mid-project for higher pay or a perceived 'better' job elsewhere, or take a sickie or book a holiday when its convenient for them regardless of what might be going on and what projects they may be involved in, or what presssures the business may be facing etc.
Apart from getting the job done (which is all you pay them for), why should they be "loyal" to the company? In fact, why would anyone stick around if they could get a better job elswhere and earn more? They don't reap the benefits of your business, so why should they schedual their lives around your business when there is a better opportunity elsewhere? Can you imagine someone saying "Sorry sir, I can't accept your fantastic $100K job, because it's a busy time of year for the business at my current job where I earn $60K"
I am currently in my 4th job. I show my appreciation to my employer by always work hard and doing more than what is required of me. But the second a better job with better pay comes along, I'm out of there. Because of my work ethic, I've always left on good terms and have a long list of very good referees for future jobs.
You own a business and do all that you can to improve it; hoping it will grow and earn you more money. So how can you expect your employees to stick around when they get a better offer elsewhere?
The other gripe I have is I've noticed a lot of employers say they can't find "good employees" anywhere. Yet these same people pay minimum wage (or close to it), or the average amount for that particular job. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Minimum wage = minimum results. Pretty simple.
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