I'm getting a bit fed up with Rudd bashing in this forum.
I'm getting a bit fed up with Rudd bashing in this forum.
"Rudd degrading the office of PM" What unspeakable act, gross studipity, corruption or whatever justifies such a statement . ([I Of course I'm sure one of our resident rudd bashers can find some excuse to warrant the slur.[/I])
I think Kevin Rudd can be fairly criticized and if he doesn't have a good rethink about how effective the public service needs to be he deserves to get a boot up the bum. I suspect it might come from his own side however.
But when I think of people who "degrade the office of PM" I keep remembering Howard deliberately vilifying boat people( "Children overboard") to split the Labour party and fire up some good old fashioned hate and fear politics.
I remember the decision to support the war in Iraq when there was plenty of evidence that it was totally dishonest ie there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
I suggest Rudd has a long way to go before he reaches those levels of duplicity.
Can we tone down the hate mail ?
You seem to be confused here. The LNP only applies in Queensland, so any comparison between the national ALP and the LNP would be meaningless.:
The 5 online betting agency's taking bets on the election all have the ALP at about $1.28 and the LNP $3.80, now for those amongst us that are super conservative and don't have a good understanding of gambling ill put this in terms they can easily understand.
You're quite right in suggesting all politicians have their failings. It just happens that John Howard and whatever his decisions were (and I absolutely agree with you about the evidence for going to war in Iraq) are history.I'm getting a bit fed up with Rudd bashing in this forum.
I think Kevin Rudd can be fairly criticized and if he doesn't have a good rethink about how effective the public service needs to be he deserves to get a boot up the bum. I suspect it might come from his own side however.
But when I think of people who "degrade the office of PM" I keep remembering Howard deliberately vilifying boat people( "Children overboard") to split the Labour party and fire up some good old fashioned hate and fear politics.
I remember the decision to support the war in Iraq when there was plenty of evidence that it was totally dishonest ie there were no weapons of mass destruction, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
I suggest Rudd has a long way to go before he reaches those levels of duplicity.
Can we tone down the hate mail ?
The fact is we were very, very, lucky.
Lucky that the rise of commodity boom times fed back into our economy remember the libs were in power during a massive expansion of gov income.
Lucky that Howard didn't win the election with his over the top ambitious spending plans.
Lucky that our banks rip us off on the fees they charge and make embarrassingly large amounts of profit so didn't need to get over exposed to derivatives. This is the really big one.
Lucky housing prices remained up under pinned by gov 1st home buyers so under pinning banks cap levels. I could go on and on but the GFC was a contagion and people have remarkably short memory's.
Oh and the fat lady still hasn't sung yet now that sovereign risk is in play and Australia cannot afford a dim wit like Barnaby running finance and a shadow treasurer that can only say glib one liners.
They worked out how to win an election against a Prime Minister that was past his best-by-date but obviously not much beyond that.Top of the list was something like 'Gee whiz, this governemnt stuff (I'm sure there was a 'business of' in there somewhere) is a bit harder than we thought' This commetn made in trying to explain the undelivered promises and poorly executed schemes.
I am watching Rudd on Insiders this morning.
He looks rattled, will not answer a question directly (as ever) and even has Barrie Cassidy a left wing commentator unable to save him from himself.
He's doing a comprehensive "Peter Beattie" impersonation, but not as convincingly.
Just watched Rudd on Insiders.
Barrie Cassidy as predicted, SOFTLY-SOFTLY-SOFTLY.
Give Cassidy 1 out 0f 10 against Red Kerrie 10 out of 10 on the 7.30 report.
Rudd did look a little rattled in his impersiation of Peter Beattie. He has a lot of catching up to do to match our dear old Pete.
* Spending $43 Billion on a new communications network without a clear business plan
* Give away a quarter of a billion to the TV stations in an election year for no increase in Aussie content.
* Design and implement the now infamous ceiling insulation program without reading Government requested reports.
Not to mention the "computer for classrooms" disaster, the "halls/fences/sporting complexes for schools whether you need it or not" scheme and the "we'll-fix-it" insulation bailout(on top of the inital waste).
Be careful about who you are calling dim wits IFocus.
Duckman
I'm getting a bit fed up with Rudd bashing in this forum.
But when I think of people who "degrade the office of PM" I keep remembering Howard deliberately vilifying boat people( "Children overboard") to split the Labour party and fire up some good old fashioned "hate and fear politics hate and fear politics.
The Rudd haters are suffering severe withdrawal symptoms, They still need a regular fix of "children overboard" to keep their spirits up.
And as for "hate and fear politics" Rudd was driving his GW campaign based on hatred of the sceptics and fear of a cataclysmic disaster. But that's only to be expected of a serial liar and manipulator, who each day degrades his office further.
Thanks for another measured response Calliope...
In fact one of the serious failures of the public service as a whole (IMO) is an inability or unwillingness to actually check out reality for themselves rather than waiting for formal reports and end of project analysis.
It is good to see that you have not lost your faith in Rudd. He has rewarded your faith by becoming the great apologist. He has now taken the sins of all his cabinet on his own shoulders. This is almost Christ-like. Perhaps one day Saint Kevin may lay down his life to absolve us of all our sins.
He will then rise again to show us how truly divine he really is.
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It is good to see that you have not lost your faith in Rudd. He has rewarded your faith by becoming the great apologist. He has now taken the sins of all his cabinet on his own shoulders. This is almost Christ-like. Perhaps one day Saint Kevin may lay down his life to absolve us of all our sins.
I am very disappointed and angry with how the insulation and Green Loans programs have been handled. I believe they were fundamentally good ideas but were simply not thought through properly and did not have proper supervision to pick up on the rapidly expanding rorts. In fact one of the serious failures of the public service as a whole (IMO) is an inability or unwillingness to actually check out reality for themselves rather than waiting for formal reports and end of project analysis.
THE network of GP super clinics being rolled out by the Rudd government may do little to improve access to health services and could worsen it by driving other family doctors out of business.
Experts told a forum on health reform in Canberra this week there was little evidence that the $275 million committed to the program would bring real improvements. They also questioned some key tenets used to justify the scheme, including the federal government's expectation that the centres would bulk-bill most or all patients, and would help fix the national shortage of GPs by encouraging more medical students to choose general practice over other specialties.
Some of the four experts who addressed the forum, held at the Australian National University, conceded super clinics could bring benefits if introduced in the right way. But all expressed some measure of concern at aspects of the implementation.
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