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Japanese Whaling?

What is your view on Japanese whaling?

  • Whaling Sucks! I'm going to boycott Japanese products!

    Votes: 17 24.6%
  • Whaling Sucks!

    Votes: 43 62.3%
  • Kill the Whales!

    Votes: 7 10.1%
  • Indifferent ...

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Total voters
    69
Seriously solely because of "cheap" energy the worlds population has gone from 1b to 6b in 100 years, its impossible for it to continue. Cheap energy has finished, growing demand diminishing crop harvests are here, dont need to read between the lines for too long to see what the consequence is likely to be.
 

and cheap energy has been the vehicle which has delivered much of the technological, medical, scientific advancements we enjoy.

i assume you are also opposed to such technology advancements as GM crops and pesticides?

in any case, as you correctly stated this has gone way off topic from the original discussion of whaling.
 
ahh. the mindset of the greeny...

caring for humans = sentimental stuff, caring for plants and animals = the most serious priority presumably?

B no plants and animals = no Humans

Focus
 

lol. what do u base this outrageous claim on?


B unfortunately the facts are outrageous Google around but try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfishing

cut some out for you


Or try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_krill


There are concerns that the overall biomass of Antarctic krill has been declining rapidly over the last few decades. Some scientists have speculated this value being as high as 80%.

Apologies for using wikipedia time is limited to find more credible sources but you get the idea

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I think the white one would be safe. Even a red neck like myself would draw the line at something as rare as that. By the way another white calf was supposed to have been spotted off the coast here this year. Migaloo is said to be a daddy.

Nioka don't get sentiment about just one whale they are all just as special do you know that whales used to be able to hear each other on the other side of the world?

Focus
 
In the Australian today

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22958968-601,00.html

 
Lets be honest ladies and gents - the whalers harpoon these gentle giants, irrespective of those with calves in tow or not, then submerge them to drown before butchering them, only to have the meat fail to sell on the open market and instead be fed to school children, in the name of "scientific research". Here's where the "honesty" word comes in again. How can a culture so advanced, proud and civilised in so many ways, be so small in others.
 
The world has to see things from a more caring point of view. However, they must see it from my point of view?
 

Many still fail to appreciate that fundamental differences exist between a whale and a fish. Similar to other higher order mammals such as dolphins, gorillas, the other two species of chimpanzee (humans being the third), and elephants, whales experience both pain and emotion (eg.joy sadness, grieving) in not dissimilar ways to humans. Similar neurotransmitters and peptides functioning in the brain in strikingly similar fashion to humans, not to mention the behavioural observations that reinforce the point.
Whilst the jury is still out on whether fish experience pain at all, there is a country mile between whatever they do experience and what a whale (or other higher order mammal) experiences.
Talk of "sustainable harvesting" is nothing more than a euphamism for inhumane wholesale slaughter. The slaughter is not necessary for the survival of the Japanese, however a ban on whaling is vital for the survival of the whales. A post earlier from someone who lived in Japan suggested that the prevailing policies are not broadly endorsed by the Japanese generally, and are largely being promoted by some of older politicians in power. Lets hope its true and change occurs sooner rather than later.
 
This could be interesting!

I wonder if our navy is prepared to help enforce the ruling?

 
Well I'm not going to get into the debate on the pros and cons that are being put in this thread. But for the record, I'm against killing of these beautiful creatures. And also, surely sustainable tourism (whale watching) will be more profitable for everyone (not to mention the whales) in the long term than killing whales.

But my great fear is.... Do any of you remember the Star Trek episode where the great whale in the sky threatened to eliminate earth in revenge for the earth people killing off the whales? Yeah, well, what if there is a great whale in the sky? Are you willing to risk that for a few whale hamburgers?
 
**** someone has got to stand up in the ALP and beat Japan over the head with a large stick. Come on Kevin! I didn't vote for you but I will have much more respect for you if you can stop the pricks from plundering OUR oceans. Where was the Greens comments? Bob Brown in MIA.
 
I'm completely opposed to what the Japanese are doing, but the government is between a rock and a hard place in view of our dependence on trade with Japan.
It will be interesting to see how they manage this court ruling.
Certainly they have backed down from their strong stand during the election campaign.
 
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