Islam and Australia

[Bobby]

Anyone who thinks Islam is not a threat to our way of life should have a look at this ( warning upsetting pictures ) .

http://www.islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1149&Itemid=64

 

[erasmus]

Re: Islam and Australia .

One of the more hateful sites on the internet,nothing untrue, completely lop sided and using smear tactics to label all Muslims as extreme.

I am married to a Muslim and i am a Christian ,with the blessing of her family,and mine,where does that fit into your bigotry?

They came here because they believe in the values of this country,no press beating down their door for an interview.I have been to the mosque for prayers , out of respect for my in laws,always welcome.They have attended church for special occasions,same for them.

I think everybody is sick of extremists, Muslim, Christian, Jew, and you.

Looking forward to your reply about what would happen to us if we lived in Saudi Arabia, how we are flaunting the Koran,I must be a labor party supporter .
Make sure to mention lots and lots of atrocities committed by Muslims,and point out extreme comments made by radical Muslims in Australia and how i am supporting them.

Your hatred is only matched by the creeps who use religion to justify the unjustifiable.

Many years ago a very wise man said "never trust anybody who drapes themselves in a flag or religion"

His comments are more profound now ,than when he said them
forty years ago.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Islam and Australia .

I know many muslims here in Townsville and all I have met appear to be good people. I only know a few well, and they are top workers and friends. There would be some ratbags amongst islamists in Townsville, I have no doubt. We have the uni, hospital and meatworks, so I believe their number will increase and many will become Australians.

In the past catholics were as villified as muslims as their leaders e.g. Mannix had views that primarily served a "unAustralian at the time" mindset.

One of the great dynamics working in Australia is that the playground has traditionally been where assimilation occurs.

Thus the children and grandchildren of migrants become australianified through interaction at school and intermarriage occurred.

Godbothering islamists are an incredible danger to Australia as they abhor assimilation and are intent on keeping their traditions until their judgement day. Many catholics and protestants of the late 1800's and up to the 1050's and 60's had a similar mindset.

Thankfully they are long gone, as are their divisive meeting halls and bans on intermarriage.

Radical Islamists will be tough to crack as their particular form of madness is a worldwide phenomenon, not shared by the majority of muslims living in Australia.

Thats my opinion anyway. Religion is always open to nutters, no matter what the religion.

gg

 

[surf73]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Just though I'd wade in here, (probably out of my depth).
I think a huge problem is not our differences - but the Western Worlds newfound political correctness.

We've spent time in Muslim countries, and out of respect - we try to fit in, (for example, my partner covered up on the beaches).
However, (I think) a huge problem arises when people from different cultures come over here and EXPECT us to accommodate their culture in our own country. They have no right to have these expectations and have to remember that the reason they're here is because it's better, (for them) than where they came from.

p.s I'm a volunteer lifeguard and a friend of mine pulled a Muslim woman out of a rip last summer. He nearly drowned when he got tangled up in her clothing. I think our girls dress far more appropriately at the beach.

 

[nunthewiser]

Re: Islam and Australia .

i love all religeons

i love all cultures

this is australia , do not expect me to change my way of life or enjoyment because of your religeon/culture.


thats the bit that shiits me

at a school swimming comp , pictures not allowed because of some religeous mumbo jumbo/culture that has attempted to force there beliefs in my path .

i do not care what you believe in but do not expect my co-operation when forced in my face


peace be with you

 

[Sean K]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Religion only belongs where it originated from. It is a cultural belief, not a universal human belief. Christianity shouldn't even be here. It only is here because of the early mass colonisation by the Brits, which destroyed the local culture. Islam (and the other myths of the Middle East – Western Asia) is a curse on the modern man: Totally and absolutely absurd and an embarrassment to logic and common sense. People believing in the God described in the books are imbeciles.

 

[erasmus]

Re: Islam and Australia .

I agree with your post Garpal, i have met some of those radical extremists and they very conveniently take out of the Koran what suits them,and ignore what does not.

I dislike what they are saying intensely and have pointed out to them their obligations and responsibilities as Muslims,should see their faces when a Christian reminds them.

I loved your comment about the playground being the place where assimilation traditionally occurs.I remember at school the Italians and Greeks and their 'funny food' .
They were given a hard time by the locals .
Now it is hard to imagine our society without them and their 'funny food'.

Your comments about Mannix and his stand against WW1 and conscription is very apt.The hatred between Catholics and Protestants at the time and right into the fifties,in Australia, is well worth exploring because a lot of the same ways of thinking are being thrown around now about Christian vs Muslim

If people want to turn Australia into the country they came from,then maybe they have come here for the wrong reasons,that's what my in laws say,and i stand beside them.

 

[Bobby]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Your hatred is only matched by the creeps who use religion to justify the unjustifiable.

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Your entitled to an opinion erasmus , enjoy that freedom for now .

 

[Sean K]

Re: Islam and Australia .

I think everybody is sick of extremists, Muslim, Christian, Jew, and you.

Bobby's extremism is not to be extremist. So what are you? Extremist against Bobby?

Secularism is the only extremist path to be followed.

I'm an extremist humanist.

Get on it, or humans are toast!

 

[pilots]

Re: Islam and Australia .

One of the more hateful sites on the internet,nothing untrue, completely lop sided and using smear tactics to label all Muslims as extreme.

I am married to a Muslim and i am a Christian ,with the blessing of her family,and mine,where does that fit into your bigotry?

They came here because they believe in the values of this country,no press beating down their door for an interview.I have been to the mosque for prayers , out of respect for my in laws,always welcome.They have attended church for special occasions,same for them.

I think everybody is sick of extremists, Muslim, Christian, Jew, and you.

Looking forward to your reply about what would happen to us if we lived in Saudi Arabia, how we are flaunting the Koran,I must be a labor party supporter .
Make sure to mention lots and lots of atrocities committed by Muslims,and point out extreme comments made by radical Muslims in Australia and how i am supporting them.

Your hatred is only matched by the creeps who use religion to justify the unjustifiable.

Many years ago a very wise man said "never trust anybody who drapes themselves in a flag or religion"

His comments are more profound now ,than when he said them
forty years ago.

So now can you still call your self a Christian, if you have married a Muslim you now must be a Muslim.

 

[Calliope]

Re: Islam and Australia .

I think everyboby is sick of extremists, Muslim, Christian, Jew, and you.

Sure, there are extremist Christians, Jews and maybe even ASF contributors, but I am not aware of any of these people who use indoctrinated suicide bombers as a terrorist weapon.

If moderate Islamists don't go along with this vile practice they should weed them out and not leave the job to others.

 

[Sean K]

Re: Islam and Australia .

So now can you still call your self a Christian, if you have married a Muslim you now must be a Muslim.

Yep, that is what some religions demand. How absolutely insane is it? If you don't follow this code, you go to hell? Just where is that anyway? Like where the fvck is hell? Or heaven for that matter. NO WHERE!! Once analysed, the religious right look so absolutely fvcking insane that it is diabolically stupid. How embarrassing is it to be a person who goes to church, or mosque, or whatever, in the 21st century! The world is round for a start idiots!! Hang your heads in shame, chimps. Ah, it's so nice to speak as a member instead of a Mod.

 

[erasmus]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Sure, there are extremist Christians, Jews and maybe even ASF contributors, but I am not aware of any of these people who use indoctrinated suicide bombers as a terrorist weapon.

If moderate Islamists don't go along with this vile practice they should weed them out and not leave the job to others.

They do weed them out,and relevant authorities have been notified,just doesn't get press for obvious reasons.
In regards to suicide bombers if you are killed by a suicide bomber or a bomb detonated from elsewhere or dropped from a plane,or use rockets from a helicopter, doesn't make much difference does it ? you are still dead.
Terrorism comes in many forms.
BTW in the Koran it is a sin to kill yourself ,radicals pervert the teachings of the Koran to suit their own monstrous ambitions.

 

[erasmus]

Re: Islam and Australia .

So now can you still call your self a Christian, if you have married a Muslim you now must be a Muslim.

Good point,maybe you should find out why a Christian can be married to a Muslim in this country,and still be a Christian, and my wife still be a Muslim.

 

[Mr J]

Re: Islam and Australia .

So now can you still call your self a Christian, if you have married a Muslim you now must be a Muslim.

He didn't say he converted, and it isn't required (despite what you may have heard).

 

[erasmus]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Bobby's extremism is not to be extremist. So what are you? Extremist against Bobby?

Secularism is the only extremist path to be followed.

I'm an extremist humanist.

Get on it, or humans are toast!

The website Bobby was promoting is extremist and hateful.

When you say secularism is the ONLY extremist path to be followed,i hope you can see the irony.

 

[pilots]

Re: Islam and Australia .

He didn't say he converted, and it isn't required (despite what you may have heard).

Are you telling me that you can marry a Muslim and NOT CONVERT to being a Muslim???

 

[Mr J]

It happens, although I don't know whether or not it is common.

 

[Riddick]

Re: Islam and Australia .

Religion only belongs where it originated from. It is a cultural belief, not a universal human belief. Christianity shouldn't even be here. It only is here because of the early mass colonisation by the Brits, which destroyed the local culture. Islam (and the other myths of the Middle East – Western Asia) is a curse on the modern man: Totally and absolutely absurd and an embarrassment to logic and common sense. People believing in the God described in the books are imbeciles.

exactly, believing in the tooth fairy makes more sense.

 

[pilots]

It happens, although I don't know whether or not it is common.

Do you know of any one who has done this, have you seen it, or have you spoken to that person??