'Church goers' actually go to hear about Jesus, not God. Jesus is a historical figure, and an example of what may have been the best way people could live in the year 0. Maybe. That's all. Our 'God' in generic terms, is very, very, different to the God of the Old Testament, and the Holy Trinity. Please do some research on The History of God. It's enlightneing!! I am converted!!!! And faithful.
Or, under this hypothesis, everything we think is true can be said to be 'my understanding of events' and not the actual truth. Perception is reality.
PS you're a brave man if you say you can answer for all people of one religion, let alone all religions'Church goers' actually go to hear about Jesus, not God.
I think this is the answer to explain why I was on the computer at 2am this morning.Kennas,
just restricting myself to the "perception is reality " but .....
two optional replies to this ..
1. you wanna watch out - some of those mushrooms that come out after rain aren't really mushrooms lol.
They're magical !! :silly:
I think what I may have meant by 'perception is reality' supports this. Everybodies idea of God is different in some small way. Even people of one religion attending the same church, or temple, being lectured to by the same Iman. This is each individual's reality, based on their perception. I don't think its brave to make that statement.PS you're a brave man if you say you can answer for all people of one religion, let alone all religions
ahhh - penny drops - thanks - spot onI think what I may have meant by 'perception is reality' supports this. Everybodies idea of God is different in some small way. Even people of one religion attending the same church, or temple, being lectured to by the same Iman. This is each individual's reality, based on their perception. I don't think its brave to make that statement.
THE RELUCTANT OPTIMIST
Why is the grass so God-damned green, since I decided to smile,
Pain in the arze that it grows so keen, and all on account of my dial,
Kick the damned dog, and stone the damned crows, I’m so sick of starting that mower,
Maybe I’ll frown and sort out the bastard, and then it’ll grow a bit slower.
Why is the sky so God-damned blue, since I decided to laugh
Bloody hot sun, and mowing too, it’s enough to make you barf,
Dog in the way – I could’ve kicked her – making mountains of charf,
Next person gets in the way of my Victa, I’ll cut the bastard in half.
I wanna know why the sun in the morning has got this God-damned hue,
I wanna know why the world without warning can wake to a dream come true
Tell me each day why my God-damned re-borning gets christened with God-damned dew,
Christ it gets tiresome each perfect dawning, It’s enough to make you spew.
You're going Zen on me now. Awareness definately makes life more magical. And those mushrooms could help that along too.But on the subject of perception / attitude :-
Henry Miller's attitude to grass:
"The moment one gives close attention to anything, even a blade of grass, it becomes a mysterious, awesome, indescribably magnificent world in itself"
Ralph Waldo Emerson: Life is a train of moods like a string of beads; and as we pass through them they prove to be many colored lenses, which paint the world their own hue, and each shows us only what lies in its own focus.
Paramahansa Yogananda: Life has a bright side and a dark side, for the world of relativity is composed of light and shadows. If you permit your thoughts to dwell on evil, you yourself will become ugly. Look only for the good in everything so you absorb the quality of beauty.
Ralph Waldo Emerson: If the stars should appear but one night every thousand years how man would marvel and adore.
Rebecca West: Did St. Francis really preach to the birds? Whatever for? If he really liked birds he would have done better to preach to the cats.
lol - spot on again collector, same goes for gardensThen again, for some, lawn mowing is the all encompassing religious experience...
I give in - a hermafrodite water walking spider who morphed into a mountain climbing man?(Apologies to poster on another site who first put this up)
He was born of a virgin on December 25th
His birth was announced by a Star.
His earthly father was named Joseph.
He was of Royal descent.
At age 12 he was a child teacher in a temple.
At age 30 he was baptised after disappearing for 18 years.
He was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana. His baptiser was later decapitated.
He had 12 disciples, two were named John.
He performed miracles.
He walked on water.
He was called the 'Holy Child'.
He delivered a 'sermon on the mount'.
He was crucified, entombed for three days, then resurrected.
He was known as: The Light, The Way, The Truth, The Lamb of God.
He was 'The Fisher'.
He came to fulfil the 'Law'
He was known as 'The KRST'
Who was this figure?
Hint - I am not Jesus, my legend predates him.
(Apologies to poster on another site who first put this up)
He was born of a virgin on December 25th
His birth was announced by a Star.
His earthly father was named Joseph.
He was of Royal descent.
At age 12 he was a child teacher in a temple.
At age 30 he was baptised after disappearing for 18 years.
He was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana. His baptiser was later decapitated.
He had 12 disciples, two were named John.
He performed miracles.
He walked on water.
He was called the 'Holy Child'.
He delivered a 'sermon on the mount'.
He was crucified, entombed for three days, then resurrected.
He was known as: The Light, The Way, The Truth, The Lamb of God.
He was 'The Fisher'.
He came to fulfil the 'Law'
He was known as 'The KRST'
Who was this figure?
Hint - I am not Jesus, my legend predates him.
he wore a number 5 geurnsy and ran about in the geelong jumper.
Hi folks,
What if the Christians are right, though ... ???
What if Jesus IS the only way to everlasting life ... ???
What if the way, that we live our lives here on earth,
actually DOES determine our destiny, beyond death ... ???
For some, it would seem like cheap insurance to believe in God
... just in case, Jesus IS the way to everlasting life ... yes???
have a great day
paul
P.S. ..... where are you going, when you die ... ???
Right that the Earth was created in 7 days? That Moses parted the Red Sea? That you can't have sex before marriage? That you can't use condoms? Or that JC was born to a women who never had sex?What if the Christians are right, though ... ???
Everlasting life? Exactly what is that! Please explain. Life where exactly? In the clouds? Where exactly do you go? Give me a GPS coordinate.What if Jesus IS the only way to everlasting life ... ???
I live according to my cultures laws the best way I can, which allows me to be the best person I can be in this life, and achieve happiness and contentment for myself and those around me. Exactly what is beyond death? St Peter waiting at the Pearly Gates?What if the way, that we live our lives here on earth,
actually DOES determine our destiny, beyond death ... ???
Cheap insurance it is NOT! I can't start with the pain and suffering religion and specifically Christainity has caused to people over the centuries.For some, it would seem like cheap insurance to believe in God
... just in case, Jesus IS the way to everlasting life ... yes???
My ashes will be distributed in the ocean, my memories will live on in those who knew me. Nothing else. Once that's in perspective I can concentrate on THIS life, and make the most of it.P.S. ..... where are you going, when you die ... ???
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