MPs react to Archbishop 'blackmail'
New South Wales MPs have used a debate on new stem cell legislation to attack the Catholic Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell, after he warned parliamentarians against supporting the bill.
NSW Emergency Services Minister Nathan Rees accused the Cardinal of blackmailing Catholic MPs.
"He can apologise, or he can invite further comparisons with that serial boofhead, Sheikh Al Hilali," he said.
State Planning Minister Frank Sartor says the comments border on zealotry.
"The days when the church burnt people in pots of oil are over," he said.
Health Minister Reba Meagher says they were disturbing. "That the Cardinal would chose to intervene and threaten Catholic MPs in New South Wales demonstrated just how out of touch he has become," she said.
The majority of MPs speaking on the issue today have backed the bill, but some, such as shadow attorney-general Greg Smith, expressed concern. "This bill seeks to remove the legal prohibition against cloning a human embryo for the purpose of destructive experimentation," he said. The debate continues tonight.
The Ends of the Earth
The angel Uriel guided Enoch in most of his travels. They made several trips to the ends of the earth, where the dome of heaven came down to the surface. For instance, Enoch says:
I went to the extreme ends of the earth and saw there huge beasts, each different from the other and different birds (also) differing from one another in appearance, beauty, and voice. And to the east of those beasts, I saw the ultimate ends of the earth which rests on the heaven. And the gates of heaven were open, and I saw how the stars of heaven come out...(1 Enoch 33:1-2).
Blasphemy is the defamation of the name of one or more gods. These may include using sacred names as stress expletives without intention to pray or speak of sacred matters. Sometimes blasphemy is used loosely to mean any profane language, for example in "With much hammering and blasphemy, the locomotive's replacement spring was finally fitted."
In a broader sense, blasphemy is irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable. In this broader sense the term is used by Sir Francis Bacon in the Advancement of Learning, when he speaks of "blasphemy against learning".
Many cultures disapprove of speech or writing which defames the god or gods of their established religions, and these restrictions have the force of law in some countries.
Yes there is a God... He wants you to beat the Taxman!!!
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5631
That's just lame insider - there're better ways to draw attention to the threads you're interested in! I noticed you did that for the house thread thingy as well...
If there's a better way then I'd like to hear it... I'm sure people wouldn't like me to start cross pollinating topics into 'stock related threads'... But Jeez when I saw the topic 'Is there a God'... I thought "damn that's a tricky topic... I'll cross pollinate". Maybe I'll start a new thread called "Is there a God an how to beat the taxman in the one thread"... hence "Two birds with one stone"
And 98% of traders are wrong. Hmmmmm.And commenting on the poll results I realised the 2 "extreme" choices garnered the most responses, and those who know that God exists without question just about edged it. I'm no statistician (well probably an amateur one) but 2 conclusions I can draw:
1) People who're in business tend to lean towards total conviction as to what they believe in. In fact the 2 choices mentioned have 110 out of 196 total of respondents, which is 56.1%, just over half. The other 4 slightly more ambivalent choices only garnered 43.9% combined.
2) The fact that the "God exists without question" option got the most responses shows that to a sizeable amount of people involved in a results-driven environment, God and striving for money can co-exist.
Maybe there's another conclusion Mousie, lol
and maybe Insider is right?
People probably really go to church to talk about houses and how to cheat the taxman
Mousie, Obviously many go for the best intentions and get a positive out of it.What's your conclusion(s) hindsight, be interested to hear it
Sorry Mousie, you were referring to the graph maybe?
happy hour comment :- I bet if we all got pissed together, and someone said "c'mon now, be 100% honest now, do you really think you KNOW whether there IS or ISN't etc - " lol
better not go there, I get into enough trouble as it is
sexual abuse etc - 5 years in jail etc ."Why would theses children say they would lay down their lives for you "
"Because they love me !"
'Church goers' actually go to hear about Jesus, not God. Jesus is a historical figure, and an example of what may have been the best way people could live in the year 0. Maybe. That's all. Our 'God' in generic terms, is very, very, different to the God of the Old Testament, and the Holy Trinity. Please do some research on The History of God. It's enlightneing!! I am converted!!!! And faithful.Yes, there is a tendency for church-goers to go to church and, apart from the main service where everything God is brought up, talk about anything but God before and after that LOL.
Or, under this hypothesis, everything we think is true can be said to be 'my understanding of events' and not the actual truth. Perception is reality.The bottom line is that this is an unanswerable question.
Those who say they believe there is a god can't prove it in any way, except to themselves of course. They believe it for their own personal reasons.
The same applies to those who say they know for sure there isnt a god. This cannot be proven either. They also believe it for their own reasons.
The only truly honest answer to this question is "I don't know".
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