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Is Global Warming becoming unstoppable?

Everyone should read George Orwells' "1984" and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyns' "The Gulag Archipelago" before they sprout about climate change.
The hysteria of CC is being used by the UN and the elites to control the world and create a "1984" system.
UN is a farce. I don't trust sending money to them while China and other countries are still classed as a developing nation. The corruption and bureaucracy there is legendary.
If one cannot accept the need for action on CC,surely they can see the need to act on pollution.
The type of action we take is the next argument.
 
What scientists have to say about climate tipping points. That is rapid irreversible warming of the globe.:(
Nine climate tipping points now 'active,' warn scientists
by University of Exeter

Credit: CC0 Public Domain
More than half of the climate tipping points identified a decade ago are now "active", a group of leading scientists have warned.

This threatens the loss of the Amazon rainforest and the great ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland, which are currently undergoing measurable and unprecedented changes much earlier than expected.

This "cascade" of changes sparked by global warming could threaten the existence of human civilisations.
https://phys.org/news/2019-11-climate-scientists.html
 
But in fact global warming is accelerating and new climate models are re evaluating how quickly the globe will warm. And its not good news..
Earth warming more quickly than thought, new climate models show
by Marlowe Hood

By 2100, average temperatures could rise 6.5 to 7.0 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels if carbon emissions continue unabated, separate models from two leading research centres in France showed
Greenhouse gases thrust into the atmosphere mainly by burning fossil fuels are warming Earth's surface more quickly than previously understood, according to new climate models set to replace those used in current UN projections, scientists said Tuesday.

By 2100, average temperatures could rise 7.0 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels if carbon emissions continue unabated, separate models from two leading research centres in France showed.

That is up to two degrees higher than the equivalent scenario in the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change's (IPCC) 2014 benchmark 5th Assessment Report.

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-earth-quickly-climate.html
 
By 2100, average temperatures could rise 7.0 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels if carbon emissions continue unabated, separate models from two leading research centres in France showed

So what do you think will happen to our civilisations if this scenario comes to pass?
 
So what do you think will happen to our civilisations if this scenario comes to pass?
I think a tech solution will come along before that happens. Otherwise poorer nations will get culled by stronger ones to survive.
 
I think a tech solution will come along before that happens. Otherwise poorer nations will get culled by stronger ones to survive.

Pity that India and Pakistan have ICBM nuclear weapons and will be hit by crop fails and starve .... pre 2100. I vote Trumps ... forever !! 2020 Donald Jr 2024 2028 ..... Ivanka 2028 2032 .... Barron 2036 2040
 
On a more constructive note there are many current options to reduce emissions and improve the quality of our lives.
I wonder whats holding us up ?

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Pity that India and Pakistan have ICBM nuclear weapons and will be hit by crop fails and starve .... pre 2100. I vote Trumps ... forever !! 2020 2024 2028 .....
Mass migration perhaps.
The interesting thing in the video you posted above was that the enhanced growth from carbon makes the plants suck up more nutrients and water. I have viewed this happen in controlled systems. Water is the big one to worry about imo. It's all these secondary and trickle down effects that are hard to gauge.

Like I said: in my opinion it's already too late. The world will not act and I think the scientists have undershot the mark on just how bad it really is.
Better to fortify Australia's water, food, energy, codes and public health. I'd Jack up defense as well.
 
Mass migration perhaps.

In October 2018 USA for the first time accepted ZERO refugees in a single month.

Sadly the IPCC with its watered down estimates has 100 million climate refugees by 2100 ... its sadly likely double that.

Meanwhile the USA is debating spending 100 billion to build a flood barrier to protect New York against rising tides due to climate change. Miami just spent 500 million on pumps ....

Funny thing is the 50 cm the IPCC had estimated by 2100 in the 2018 report is now likely 1 metre rise by then.
 
They nailed it, global prosperity is driving warming, people are asking everyone to find a way to mitigate their use of power, when in reality all the people have to do is reduce the amount of power they use.
They sit there worrying about global warming, while they watch the Australian open on their 65" t.v, in their air conditioned room, while blogging on their tablet and doing facetime on their phone.:roflmao:
As the poor become more affluent, the more the climate warms, it will be self resolving, see my earlier post.
As the population of the World grows and the affluence grows, so the developing Countries demand for energy grows to match the developed Countries. Therefore they will want and expect the same trimmings, it really is a snowball, that wont be stopped. IMO
 
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Facts are what matte


Facts .... well the Koch site in the 1960's led the tobacco denial ... now its on the climate.
A sad sad fact.

This persons sources are things like Cato and Heritage foundation paid idiot denial types.

Another sad fact.
 
Better to fortify Australia's water, food, energy, codes and public health. I'd Jack up defense as well.

Yeah no.... :(

I'd be wondering about how Oz comes with its own climate refugees. Australia will be one of the bigger casualties of global warming. The North will become too hot too live in. As will much of the central parts of Australia.

Rising sea levels will challenge all coastal cities. Have a look and see which parts of Oz will be inhabitable when sea levels rise 1-2 metres and temperatures are 2-3 C higher. Then ask who ill be trying to get into these areas.
 
Facts .... well the Koch site in the 1960's led the tobacco denial ... now its on the climate.
A sad sad fact.

This persons sources are things like Cato and Heritage foundation paid idiot denial types.

Another sad fact.
And yet Michael mann is your poster boy.

We can smear and propagandize all day here, but in the end only the truth will prevail. I would question why you choose to attack the messenger rather than debate the substance of the argument
 
Yeah no.... :(

I'd be wondering about how Oz comes with its own climate refugees. Australia will be one of the bigger casualties of global warming. The North will become too hot too live in. As will much of the central parts of Australia.

Rising sea levels will challenge all coastal cities. Have a look and see which parts of Oz will be inhabitable when sea levels rise 1-2 metres and temperatures are 2-3 C higher. Then ask who ill be trying to get into these areas.
No matter if we switched off everything tomorrow, it will not change the outcome for us, Australia's fate is at the hands of the larger countries especially China, India the U.S and Europe.
We just have to hope everything that can be done will be done, but I doubt there will be sufficient time, materials or space, to change 100% from fossil fuel to renewables in the next 50 years. Time will tell.
Just my opinion.
 
Look at this drooling climate expert ...

cant even read off a teleprompter. Must have run out of stuff for his nose that he snorts.

Read the comments .... and one see.s why the USA is so so stable being led by the under 65 IQ people

I am agog at this speech ... that the USA still imports oil seems to have missed this persons narrative.

 
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