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Finally it happened. The belligerent Islamic regime in Tehran will be referred for Sanctions to the UN Security Council by the IAEA.........
Please read.....

Nuclear watchdog clears way for Iran's referral to UN
24/09/2005 - 19:30:55

The International Atomic Energy Agency’s board today approved a resolution that clears the way for referring Iran to the UN Security Council over its nuclear program.

Diplomats inside the meeting said, however, that only 22 of the 35 board nations voted for the US-backed European Union motion, reflecting the divisions over referral.

Only twice in the past two decades has the IAEA board voted on an issue instead of adopting a resolution by consensus. Both of those were on sending North Korea to the council – in 1993 and 2003 – for breaking with the non-Non-proliferationproliferation treaty.

Board nations Russia and China, which are also veto-wielding Security Council members, abstained from today’s vote, along with 10 other nations, all of them developing countries, diplomats said. Among those voting for the resolution were European countries on the board, along with the US, Canada, Australia and Japan.

Venezuela cast the only vote against.

The EU draft resolution adopted by the board was one submitted yesterday, after last-minute talks collapsed with Russia and China on modifications meant to make the text milder in exchange for Moscow’s and Beijing’s overt support.

That EU draft called on the board to consider reporting Iran to the council. As grounds, it mentioned non-compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and suspicions that Iran’s nuclear activities could threaten international peace and security.

The approval reflected board concern over Iran’s “long history of concealment and deception,” despite the divisions among board members, said the chief US representative to the meeting, Gregory Schulte.

In opting for referral, the board is “concerned that Iran’s activities pose an increasing threat to international peace and security,” Schulte told reporters. “The IAEA has called on Iran to … come clean.”

But Iran’s delegation head, Javad Vaeidi, said strong opposition by a large minority of board members reflected that “there is no consensus on the way forward.” He warned of retaliation, declaring: “Threat invokes threat.”

Tehran had already warned that, if the resolution was approved, it could respond by starting uranium enrichment – a possible path to nuclear arms – and by reducing IAEA powers to inspect its activities under the additional agreement it had signed but not yet ratified.

Diplomats accredited to the agency who sought anonymity because their information was confidential said that both threats were contained in unsigned letters and shown by a member of the Iranian delegation to the IAEA chief, Mohamed Elbaradei.

The Security Council could impose sanctions if it determines that Iran violated the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, but the draft made no mention of sanctions, in recognition of Russian and Chinese opposition.

Still, it was unequivocal in saying that – unless Iran ends uranium conversion and clears up questions remaining about its past nuclear activities – grounds exist for it to be referred to the Security Council.

A nation’s failure to comply with the nonproliferation treaty is automatic grounds for a report to the Security Council under IAEA statutes, and the draft said “Iran’s many failures and breaches of its obligations … constitute non-compliance.”

Additionally, Iran’s spotty record on co-operating with an IAEA investigation that began in 2002 has led to an “absence of confidence that Iran’s nuclear programme is exclusively for peaceful purposes,” the document said.

That finding puts Iran “within the competence of the Security Council, as the organ bearing the main responsbility for the maintenance of international peace and security,” the text said.


SOURCE: Ireland On Line.
 
Well, yes.....It's true, the UN can ONLY make decisions.....Decide on proposals.
It cannot (except in rare situations...) implement decisions***.....
However, such a decision by the Security Council can give the "green light" for other.....More drastic measures....

*** Iran can always (as one would suspect they may do...) withdraw from the NPT (Non Proliferation Treaty) member of which they are now.....BUT, such a move may have even more severe consenquences for them......

***** The Pendulum is heavily swinging in our (West's) favour. Even India has voted in favour of referring Iran to the Security Council......Of the "big guns" Only Russia (for obvious reasons-they are building a $1 billion Nuclear Reactor in Iran) and China abstained for voting......
Amazingly only one of the 35 IAEA member-nations voted against the motion.....That was....Loony Chavez's Venezuela!!!!!!!!!
 
It will be interesting to see the outcome from the proposals presently offered by both parties.With America taking some heat out of the Persian Gulf the Iranian president has done this interview which I see as extremely positive for further compromise.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25882303#25882303
 
No surprise here since the UN acts in the interest of the richest nations in the world. All sanctions have ever done was to cause a third world coutries' population to suffer so they will be softened up for the US to overthrow their government.

Oh, don't forget they have found no evidence that Iran is planning on obtaining nuclear weapons. They are just pointing the finger at Iran saying "they look shady so let's put sanctions on them and invade their country".

Will the UN do anything about genocide of Palestinians and Israel's (proven) nuclear stockpile? Or discuss the illegal US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia?
 
No surprise here since the UN acts in the interest of the richest nations in the world. All sanctions have ever done was to cause a third world coutries' population to suffer so they will be softened up for the US to overthrow their government.

Oh, don't forget they have found no evidence that Iran is planning on obtaining nuclear weapons. They are just pointing the finger at Iran saying "they look shady so let's put sanctions on them and invade their country".

Will the UN do anything about genocide of Palestinians and Israel's (proven) nuclear stockpile? Or discuss the illegal US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia?

I'm as cynical as anyone but with both China and Russia abstaining + the fact that (I think) Iran is sitting on the 2nd largest gas reserves in the world and that Ahmaddinejad (geez I like that name) has said he wants Israel wiped off the earth
maybe it was time for the UN to say something??
 
Normal UN process is after months or years of diplomatic wrangling to finally come to a resolution and write a letter, with a deadline.

If the deadline passes and you don't do what we say, we will write another letter!
 
Rather irrelevant actions. China and Russia will veto any big resolution in the end...and why shouldn't they?
The US wants to say which countries can defend themselves and which countries cannot .If Iraq did in fact have weapons of mass destruction they would never have been attacked.
Does the west want to install a new Shah in Iran...one that is compliant with the west's needs for cheap energy.
Same crap...different day !
Iran was on Bush's axis of evil list...North Korea..too hard....then Iraq ...easy enough it was thought....and now for Iran.
Let the propaganda games begin ?
 
Hi,

Bush has run out of time to do anything through the glacial speed of the UN. If Obama wins the election, the US will be mostly gone from the middle east, for at least 4 years.

Mind you, with the speed of the UN, maybe they are really thinking of a few years into the future :cautious: Does Bush have a son?? :eek:

brty
 
If Obama wins the election, the US will be mostly gone from the middle east, for at least 4 years.

Rubbish. Obama will change nothing and he has made it very clear to his zionist lobby groups.


kgee said:
I'm as cynical as anyone but with both China and Russia abstaining + the fact that (I think) Iran is sitting on the 2nd largest gas reserves in the world and that Ahmaddinejad (geez I like that name) has said he wants Israel wiped off the earth

Iran has trade relationships with China, Russia and Venezuela. Are you saying there is something wrong with the fact that it is not Exxon drilling there instead?

And it was a translation error taken out of context but they ran with the propaganda as expected.
 
Why nuclear power generation???The nuclear enrichment program might not be for weoponry but it would be convenient if friction escalated with neighbouring countries.From my internet research, history shows a timeline of many conflicts in Persia, cultural change and now the official Islamic Republic of Iran.

Islam means different things to different people.

Timeline resouce :- http://www.mage.com/TLbody.html

570 -- The Prophet Mohammad was born.

608-622 -- The long war between the Sasanians and the Byzantines significantly weakened both sides.

622 -- Fearing persecution for his beliefs, the Prophet Mohammad migrated from Mecca to Medina. His migration or Hijra marked the birth of Islamic civilization and the starting point of all Islamic calendars. God conveyed the beliefs of Islam to the Prophet Mohammad through the angel Gabriel in a series of visions and revelations. Muslims consider the Prophet Mohammad as the last prophet in a line of prophets that includes the prophets Moses and Jesus.

629-632 -- Two consecutive female monarchs ruled over the Sasanian Empire, Purandokht and her sister Azarmidokht. Purandokht signed a peace treaty with the Byzantines.

632 -- The Prophet Mohammad died. Subsequently, his revelations were gathered and compiled into the holy book of Islam - The Koran.

Any answers as to why go nuclear powered in a country with so much gas and oil?Many countries in the world do not have nuclear power.Bit suss. don`t you think?
 
Any answers as to why go nuclear powered in a country with so much gas and oil?Many countries in the world do not have nuclear power.Bit suss. don`t you think?

Any answers as to why a country with so much gas and oil is being targeted by the UN? Many countries in the world have nuclear enrichment programs.Bit suss. don`t you think?
 
Any answers as to why a country with so much gas and oil is being targeted by the UN? Many countries in the world have nuclear enrichment programs.Bit suss. don`t you think?


You obviously have no idea.:eek:

Does anyone else?
 
Iran has trade relationships with China, Russia and Venezuela. Are you saying there is something wrong with the fact that it is not Exxon drilling there instead?

What I'm saying is that if both China and Russia have abstained it must be for a reason, surely they do not want to upset Iran when they are trying there best to get access to Iran's oil and gas?
 
kgee, that is what I meant. Iran has trade partners who (rightly) see threats to Iran as a threat to them. China, Russia and Venezuela have and still are subject to intimidation by the west. Like Iran, they are not a part of "the clique" so it is no surprise they do not support this.


Wysiwyg, no I dont know what you mean, or why Islam has anything to do with this. care to explain with a few facts?
 
Wysiwyg, no I dont know what you mean, or why Islam has anything to do with this. care to explain with a few facts?

In a region with historic AND present war/conflict.Neighbouring country issuing threats with fearful thoughts.And a uranium enrichment program.What does it look like?????What the world does not want to see is nuclear arms proliferation in a region with deep seated and ongoing (no thanks to Americas intervention in some ways) aggressive approach to conflict resolution.
I would like see Iran as a co-operative and friendly country to participate in world affairs and a country with passive intentions.A good country.

p.s. I do not know anything about Islam and find all religious beginnings stem from one imagining.
 
kgee, that is what I meant. Iran has trade partners who (rightly) see threats to Iran as a threat to them. China, Russia and Venezuela have and still are subject to intimidation by the west. Like Iran, they are not a part of "the clique" so it is no surprise they do not support this.

Well thats a matter of opinion ... personaly I believe if both Russia and China were to unite... then the west couldn't intimidate them at all
So the fact that they abstained suggests to me that maybe china and russia don't want Iran having the potential to make nuclear arms.
I know russia has been trying to broker a deal where they do the 'enrichment' and also trying to get them to start off with the low grade uranium that can't be enriched ( I'm not a scientist but thats the gist I've been getting):2twocents
 
In a region with historic AND present war/conflict.Neighbouring country issuing threats with fearful thoughts.And a uranium enrichment program.What does it look like?????

You will have to be specific here because you are sounding like the guys on Fox news.
-What neighbouring countries are you referring to? (Israel is not a country)
-What threats?
-When has Iran attacked another country? (Gulf War) What was the cause of the conflict? (Oil, USA backing Sadaam)

Iran has good relations with other middle eastern countries. Israel knows this which is why it had been bombing Syria and Lebanon (illegally). And the west uses propaganda to legitimise it.

Not only is Israel enriching uranium, it has a massive stockpile of nuclear weapons. Now that is a state that has a history of aggression towards neighbouring countries and still issues threats. Disarm them and it will bring much peace to the middle east.
 
Iran has good relations with other middle eastern countries. Israel knows this which is why it had been bombing Syria and Lebanon (illegally). And the west uses propaganda to legitimise it.

noooo, iran has mixed relations with other middle eastern countries, now and throughout history. their support of hezbollah isn't endearing them to the lebanese, and in fact is largely responsible for israeli strikes into southern lebanon, there are ongoing tensions with iraq, and they are part of the nuclear black market which was the cause of israels recent strike on syria.

Not only is Israel enriching uranium, it has a massive stockpile of nuclear weapons. Now that is a state that has a history of aggression towards neighbouring countries and still issues threats. Disarm them and it will bring much peace to the middle east.

what planet are you on? israel has been repeatedly attacked since its inception by combined arab forces who publicly call for the extermination of israel and the jews. seriously juw, you've got such an anti-west hardon its clouding your judgement. disarm the israelis to bring peace to the middle east. ha! keep on raging against the west though, you're doing chinese nationalists everywhere proud.
 
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