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Internet Filtering: Australia heads further towards totalitarianism

I too am bloody outraged.... I can just imagine signing up for a new internet connection....


"Great sir...thats $49.95....and would you like to watch pr0n on the internet?"

"Why yes....I think I will take the pr0n option."

"Certainly sir. That option is $79.95, and your tendency to enjoy internet pr0n has been duly noted by the government, and anyone else we choose to sell your information to. Thankyou, and have a nice day."

Little do you realise that Big Brother failed to inform you that included in the $79.95 pr0n Option is an innocuous looking radio-dongle that will illuminate a flashing warning light in your local Police Station every time you access your *ahem* "P" Option.

I can imagine the Wallopers commenting ... "Hey guys.... look - Weird Wally is 'avin' another perve ... let's go raid the poor sod for a larf..." :eek: LOL

aj
 
Continued here: http://www.infoworld.com/news/feeds/08/10/13/No-opt-out-of-filtered-Internet.html?source=gs

Once again, Australians are treated like children by our elected representatives.

We will have no control over what internet sites are filtered out for us by the government.

Once surrendered, freedoms are very hard to regain. :(

Is anyone actually in favour of this kind of nanny state censorship I wonder?

The more they do to stop the sickoes out there from getting to our kids the better.
Im actually shocked a person would diagree with measures taken to protect children .
If you want ur pr0n get a video lets get rid of the crap from the net our children and our lives .
Who cares if you cant access everything you want , our kids are way more important than you just being able to google whatever you like .
:D:D
 
The more they do to stop the sickoes out there from getting to our kids the better.
Im actually shocked a person would diagree with measures taken to protect children .
If you want ur pr0n get a video lets get rid of the crap from the net our children and our lives .
Who cares if you cant access everything you want , our kids are way more important than you just being able to google whatever you like .
:D:D

If you are a parent and you're not supervising your children's internet usage or installing filters on the PC they use then you are being negligent as a parent.

How exactly are these laws going to 'protect children'? How are these laws going to 'stop the sickos getting to our kids'?

These laws are not designed to protect children, they are designed to control what information adult Australians are able to access on the internet. IMO this is an unacceptable intrusion upon the freedoms of ordinary Australians. Sadly, cradle to grave socialism has made the Australian populace extraordinarily compliant and the majority will not resist the slow, relentless slide towards complete government control of our lives that this sort of legislation signals the beginning of.

It won't happen suddenly but as the result of incrementalism. Our civil liberties will be chipped away at slowly, piece by piece until one day big brother will control almost every aspect of our lives.

You may relish the idea of living in a society like that, but I don't. :mad:
 
If you are a parent and you're not supervising your children's internet usage or installing filters on the PC they use then you are being negligent as a parent.

How exactly are these laws going to 'protect children'? How are these laws going to 'stop the sickos getting to our kids'?

These laws are not designed to protect children, they are designed to control what information adult Australians are able to access on the internet. IMO this is an unacceptable intrusion upon the freedoms of ordinary Australians. Sadly, cradle to grave socialism has made the Australian populace extraordinarily compliant and the majority will not resist the slow, relentless slide towards complete government control of our lives that this sort of legislation signals the beginning of.

It won't happen suddenly but as the result of incrementalism. Our civil liberties will be chipped away at slowly, piece by piece until one day big brother will control almost every aspect of our lives.

You may relish the idea of living in a society like that, but I don't. :mad:

Obviosly you havent travelled much??
You should bend over and kiss the ground you live on because there are alot out there that dont even have electricity nevermind the internet.

Your comments are typical of an obnoxius person blind to reality and cant see past his front door.
As parents we protect our children to the best of our ability ,but to say its our responsibility solely is typical of your mind set.

If you saw a child getting bashed or raped would you just walk on by and say im not doing anything its his parents responsibility?

We protect them to the fullest but still the sickoes or sickoee still get to them and your saying thats the parents responsibility?? What world are you living in??

As i said previously the more we can do ALL OFF US to protect our families is way more inportant than any internet :D:D
 
It won't happen suddenly but as the result of incrementalism. Our civil liberties will be chipped away at slowly, piece by piece until one day big brother will control almost every aspect of our lives.

You may relish the idea of living in a society like that, but I don't. :mad:
I agree entirely. This first move at censorship, under the guise of protecting our children, will inculcate in the population more acceptance of the power of government over our lives. It doesn't take too many steps of imagination to see a stage where the government will decide what political and sociological information we are allowed to access.

It's utterly unacceptable.
 
It's utterly unacceptable.

Agree.

However it has already happened. Just look at anti-terror laws and the like. People can be detained indefinitely, phone taps etc etc. Specifically related to the Internet is Echelon and the scanning of ALL emails for specific keywords.

Cruise, dont you see that they are now just using children as a guise to take away more civil liberties, just as they did with 'terrorism' (which everyone is over now).

I have travelled extensively, and yes we are lucky, but there will come a time when we are no more free than a lot of other countries out there. It may not be in your life or mine but it is happening slowly as we speak.
 
Agree.

However it has already happened. Just look at anti-terror laws and the like. People can be detained indefinitely, phone taps etc etc. Specifically related to the Internet is Echelon and the scanning of ALL emails for specific keywords.

Cruise, dont you see that they are now just using children as a guise to take away more civil liberties, just as they did with 'terrorism' (which everyone is over now).

I have travelled extensively, and yes we are lucky, but there will come a time when we are no more free than a lot of other countries out there. It may not be in your life or mine but it is happening slowly as we speak.


Well said but i guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Sorry to busy with market ,its been a good day :D:D:D
 
Well said but i guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Sorry to busy with market ,its been a good day :D:D:D

Well done. You better hope that one day the guvmint doesn't "censor" the shares you can buy or sell.

Oh, sorry.

Shorting was "censored".

;)
 
Agree.

However it has already happened. Just look at anti-terror laws and the like. People can be detained indefinitely, phone taps etc etc. Specifically related to the Internet is Echelon and the scanning of ALL emails for specific keywords.

I deliberately like to add random terrorist-associated words to the bottom of my emails or during phone conversations, just to give someone in ASIO a hard time.:D



PS - bomb, fertiliser, timer, aeroplane, sim-card, chewbacca, yoda, lightsaber...
 
I deliberately like to add random terrorist-associated words to the bottom of my emails or during phone conversations, just to give someone in ASIO a hard time.:D



PS - bomb, fertiliser, timer, aeroplane, sim-card, chewbacca, yoda, lightsaber...

haha funny :D nice
 
I deliberately like to add random terrorist-associated words to the bottom of my emails or during phone conversations, just to give someone in ASIO a hard time.:D



PS - bomb, fertiliser, timer, aeroplane, sim-card, chewbacca, yoda, lightsaber...


Even in jest there are heavy penalties imposed by people who take blowing up people VERY seriously.


Two popular party venues in Western Australia came within hours of being on terrorist alert on New Year's Eve after a hoax caller told the National Security Hotline of a plot to blow up the party hotspots.

Police records showed an xxxxx xxxxxx lived in Maddington, a Perth suburb, and they started tracking him from house to house. It is understood they raided up to seven homes before finding xxxxxx late on Tuesday afternoon.

xxxxxx made the call from a public phone box in suburban Gosnells about 7am after seeing the Federal Government's anti-terrorism television advertisement, which included the call centre's toll-free number.

xxxxxx was released on bail but will have to undergo a psychiatric assessment before he next appears in court on January 31.
 
If you are a parent and you're not supervising your children's internet usage or installing filters on the PC they use then you are being negligent as a parent.

How exactly are these laws going to 'protect children'? How are these laws going to 'stop the sickos getting to our kids'?

These laws are not designed to protect children, they are designed to control what information adult Australians are able to access on the internet. IMO this is an unacceptable intrusion upon the freedoms of ordinary Australians. Sadly, cradle to grave socialism has made the Australian populace extraordinarily compliant and the majority will not resist the slow, relentless slide towards complete government control of our lives that this sort of legislation signals the beginning of.

It won't happen suddenly but as the result of incrementalism. Our civil liberties will be chipped away at slowly, piece by piece until one day big brother will control almost every aspect of our lives.

You may relish the idea of living in a society like that, but I don't. :mad:

I Agree 100%, this is how every government takes more control, "Its for your own good" they say, Really? I cant look after myself and family, the Government knows better? :confused::confused: And the Stupid lemmings like Cruise just don't get it, they don't understand the concept of being free, they want to control everything everyone does, "Just in case", you never know, something bad might happen.


Obviosly you havent travelled much??
You should bend over and kiss the ground you live on because there are alot out there that dont even have electricity nevermind the internet.

Your comments are typical of an obnoxius person blind to reality and cant see past his front door.
As parents we protect our children to the best of our ability ,but to say its our responsibility solely is typical of your mind set.

If you saw a child getting bashed or raped would you just walk on by and say im not doing anything its his parents responsibility?

We protect them to the fullest but still the sickoes or sickoee still get to them and your saying thats the parents responsibility?? What world are you living in??

As i said previously the more we can do ALL OFF US to protect our families is way more important than any internet :D:D

Your the Ignorant one who's blind to the reality of the situation, What StockGuru is saying is that this measure will do NOTHING to protect children, absolutely nothing! All it will do is once again limit the freedoms of every single person in Australia, because of some Do-Gooder fanciful scheme that ,while maybe good in theory, never actually accomplishes anything. Unfortunately it sounds like we do live in a country of blind, ignorant, cradle to grave Socialistic, "Im not ready to take responsibility for my own actions" losers.

Im sorry Cruise, but if you aren't a good enough parent to limit what your kids are exposed to then that is no one but your fault.

Im sick of people saying we have to live in a cotton wool society because a small, very small, minority of people don't do the right thing.
 
I Agree 100%, this is how every government takes more control, "Its for your own good" they say, Really? I cant look after myself and family, the Government knows better? :confused::confused: And the Stupid lemmings like Cruise just don't get it, they don't understand the concept of being free, they want to control everything everyone does, "Just in case", you never know, something bad might happen.




Your the Ignorant one who's blind to the reality of the situation, What StockGuru is saying is that this measure will do NOTHING to protect children, absolutely nothing! All it will do is once again limit the freedoms of every single person in Australia, because of some Do-Gooder fanciful scheme that ,while maybe good in theory, never actually accomplishes anything. Unfortunately it sounds like we do live in a country of blind, ignorant, cradle to grave Socialistic, "Im not ready to take responsibility for my own actions" losers.

Im sorry Cruise, but if you aren't a good enough parent to limit what your kids are exposed to then that is no one but your fault.

Im sick of people saying we have to live in a cotton wool society because a small, very small, minority of people don't do the right thing.

Dont be sorry discussion is a very important part of a forum to talk about the issues and its good to hear the negative and posative sides whether you agree or disagree.
If ever i have children i will let you know how i go looking after them but until then i will stick to making money :D
Guess its just like the jurdiciary system some of the crimes people get away with i would be quite happy to be the executioner and pull the switch but because we live in your so called cotton wool society we allow these dip****s to walk the streets and prey on our kids, and its because of people like you yelling dont take away a persons liberty that they are able to freely walk the streets.
Governments need to get tough on these morons and if it means taking away your internet who cares we survived without it 15 years ago and mind you our lives were more active then too .
Sometimes youve gotta give to gain ,just like the stock market

:D:D
 
[Unfortunately it sounds like we do live in a country of blind, ignorant, cradle to grave Socialistic, "Im not ready to take responsibility for my own actions" losers.]

Ha!

You think you've got it bad, try living in New Zealand!

The Government here has just announced they will be placing water regulators on all of our shower heads to "limit" households water use.
 
[Unfortunately it sounds like we do live in a country of blind, ignorant, cradle to grave Socialistic, "Im not ready to take responsibility for my own actions" losers.]

Ha!

You think you've got it bad, try living in New Zealand!

The Government here has just announced they will be placing water regulators on all of our shower heads to "limit" households water use.

Sounds like a dare too far.... :)
 
[Unfortunately it sounds like we do live in a country of blind, ignorant, cradle to grave Socialistic, "Im not ready to take responsibility for my own actions" losers.]

Ha!

You think you've got it bad, try living in New Zealand!

The Government here has just announced they will be placing water regulators on all of our shower heads to "limit" households water use.

What you mean theve actually started to shower over there :D
Pity they dont have a filtering system at the airport to regulate who comes to australia :D:D:D
 
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

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Is anyone genuinely naive enough to think that totalitarianism can't happen here? It's one freedom at a time. Selective information monitoring with good reasons in individual cases to find criminals is one thing. Blanket information control of an entire nation is an entirely different kettle of fish.
 
Dont be sorry discussion is a very important part of a forum to talk about the issues and its good to hear the negative and posative sides whether you agree or disagree.
If ever i have children i will let you know how i go looking after them but until then i will stick to making money :D
Guess its just like the jurdiciary system some of the crimes people get away with i would be quite happy to be the executioner and pull the switch but because we live in your so called cotton wool society we allow these dip****s to walk the streets and prey on our kids, and its because of people like you yelling dont take away a persons liberty that they are able to freely walk the streets.
Governments need to get tough on these morons and if it means taking away your internet who cares we survived without it 15 years ago and mind you our lives were more active then too .
Sometimes youve gotta give to gain ,just like the stock market

:D:D

You still haven't explained how this proposed legislation is going to 'protect children' or 'stop the sickos getting to our kids'.

If parents allow the internet into their homes then it is their responsibility to filter it using software, or alternatively, to monitor their children's internet usage. Parents need to take responsibility for what their children are exposed to in their own homes!

This legislation isn't going to do anything to protect children that can't already be done by the parents themselves. It is a gross infringement upon the civil liberties of ordinary Australians and I hope that other concerned Australians will actively resist this heavy handed government interference in their lives.
 
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