International markets traders banter

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative". :

Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!

Timmy · 13 March 2012

I'll be right with you once I re-orient my screen to portrait.

I'm going to need some phone books to sit on if this continues.

sinner · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative". :

Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!

Thanks for starting the thread, I felt guilty about off topic too.

She's running hard that's for sure, best not to stand in the way it seems. I heard Asian CB demand for AUDUSD down at 1.05 was advertised at least since Friday (e.g. http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/03/12/audusd-trade-recommendation/ and http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/...terest-yesterday-near-1-0500-was-very-strong/), they definitely look like they were hitting offers pretty hard in that zone today!

Thankfully, much more 'normal' trading today compared to last week. One loser and a couple of regular wins today, +10 all up, not sure I'm gonna bother with the afternoon session, might try for a couple more slugs around the London Open if it looks good...I'm not game to either try and fade here or wait to try and catch the continuation.

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

Timmy said:
I'll be right with you once I re-orient my screen to portrait.

I'm going to need some phone books to sit on if this continues.

LOL. yep ES up 0.4% Z(Ftse) 0.5%, Asia 1-2% just another day hey!

Things look a little toppy for now (next hour!) probably need some more Euro juice to move higher............... today.

Starcraftmazter · 13 March 2012

Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?

skyQuake · 13 March 2012

Starcraftmazter said:
Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?

U mean Apple on the nasdaq ? Or open interest on nasdaq?
Doubt theres any good free sources out there

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

Starcraftmazter said:
Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?

APPL
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/aapl/short-interest
NAS,
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/qqq/short-interest
and
http://www.cmegroup.com/market-data/volume-open-interest/equity-volume.html

Starcraftmazter · 13 March 2012

skyQuake said:
U mean Apple on the nasdaq ? Or open interest on nasdaq?
Doubt theres any good free sources out there

Both Apple as a stock and NASDAQ as an index.

Trembling Hand said:
APPL
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/aapl/short-interest
NAS,
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/qqq/short-interest
and
http://www.cmegroup.com/market-data/volume-open-interest/equity-volume.html

Cheers. Is there a way to get that data dating even further back?

tech/a · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative". :

Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!

Whats happened to your blog?
Are you looking at bot trading or are you
going to simply out perform them manually?
Have you any interest in developing Algos for
this sort of trading?

Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size
Joe average could be badly un stuck.

I can see neuro bots popping up.
(Adapting to other bots algos for profit).

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

Starcraftmazter said:
Cheers. Is there a way to get that data dating even further back?

Open interest for the index is everywhere. Like here,
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=NQ

For APPL no idea. You'll have to have a hunt around. Sure its out there somewhere. Not that its much use in any case. Index OI waxes and wanes and most of its not directional trades. And then of course for every short there is a long so I wonder what your looking for?

Starcraftmazter · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
For APPL no idea. You'll have to have a hunt around. Sure its out there somewhere. Not that its much use in any case. Index OI waxes and wanes and most of its not directional trades. And then of course for every short there is a long so I wonder what your looking for?

Trend I guess, to see when the trend of shorts will rise.

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

tech/a said:
Whats happened to your blog?

No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.

tech/a said:
Are you looking at bot trading or are you going to simply out perform them manually?
Have you any interest in developing Algos for this sort of trading?

Not really. My head hurts enough as it is. And its hardly like my current methods are broken nor have I reached the limit of my current approach...... So do and do again.

tech/a said:
Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size Joe average could be badly un stuck.

Trading an algo? or futs trading in general?

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

Starcraftmazter said:
Trend I guess, to see when the trend of shorts will rise.

Actually short interest normally rise as a company approaches bankruptcies. That is once they have been in a long down trend.

ThingyMajiggy · 13 March 2012

tech/a said:
Have you any interest in developing Algos for
this sort of trading?

Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size
Joe average could be badly un stuck.

I can see neuro bots popping up.
(Adapting to other bots algos for profit).

TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot. It might make things interesting, I know a lot of guys are pretty excited about it, so there could be a algo-mad period where guys that don't really have much idea are creating these crazy algos that might not work, could get some weird things going on......maybe

EDIT: Haha getting off topic straight away, my bad. *ahem* Asia up between 1-2%. There we go.

tech/a · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.

See your point. I dont and wouldnt without some reason for doing so,$s would be an influence.

Not really. My head hurts enough as it is. And its hardly like my current methods are broken nor have I reached the limit of my current approach...... So do and do again.

Trading an algo? or futs trading in general?

Id say the In general guys would be at risk more so than those capable of testing and implementing an Algo bot.

tech/a · 13 March 2012

ThingyMajiggy said:
TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot. It might make things interesting, I know a lot of guys are pretty excited about it, so there could be a algo-mad period where guys that don't really have much idea are creating these crazy algos that might not work, could get some weird things going on......maybe

Creating is one side of the Cube.
There are 7 others.

Trembling Hand · 13 March 2012

ThingyMajiggy said:
TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot.

tech/a said:
Creating is one side of the Cube.
There are 7 others.

And only takes 50 hours to be an expert.

https://adlsupport.tradingtechnologies.com/Documentation/HowToLearnADL

ha!!

skyQuake · 13 March 2012

Apple shorts:

imo it really doesnt tell you much. After paying $$$ for accurate data: short interest, %lending available, %of lending used, etc, it didn't seem like there was any edge.

Its a very tricky area. Even with paid data

ThingyMajiggy · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
And only takes 50 hours to be an expert.

https://adlsupport.tradingtechnologies.com/Documentation/HowToLearnADL

ha!!

Haha exactly. Will be interesting to see what comes out of it, especially with our local stuff.

Timmy · 13 March 2012

Trembling Hand said:
No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.

Was/still is a great source TH.

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