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this probably isn't the right thread for it but it'll do. another kiwi finance house folds, this time after a run of funds - but it only took TWO DAYS of runs to close it down.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10461596

"LDC was one of all the finance companies which responded positively last week to a Securities Commission query about their financial fitness. Perpetual Trust chief executive Louise Edwards told NZPA that LDC had experienced a run on its funds only over the last two days.

She said Nelson-based LDC had around half of its funds on call and its investors, both those who had funds on call and debenture holders, had rung demanding their money back.

She described the run as unprecedented.

"Liquidity is a real problem particularly if people have on call deposits," she said.

Ms Edwards said LDC was fundamentally a good company with good assets but was unable to sustain such a run.

It had assets across the board, but particularly in commercial property.

She believed investors would eventually get all their money back.

She said calling in the receivers was a "holding action" so that all investors would be treated fairly.

In the past 16 months eight finance companies have gone into receivership, owing investors $1.14 billion.
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The cost of money is rising fast. An excert from today's Rockefeller news letter -

Not every bank management is smart and reasonable. The WSJ reports that 3-month LIBOR, which averaged 5.34-5.36% this year to August, traded at 5.7% yesterday. “The Libor [rate] hasn't been this far above the base short-term rates set by central banks since the Enron and WorldCom collapses in 2001, according to the British Bankers' Association, which sets the rate.” The article is clearly written by youngsters who don’t know the history of LIBOR and didn’t bother to find out. They fail to mention that transactions done in LIBOR escape Fed reserve requirements and other regs. Some US mortgages are based on LIBOR, which makes no economic sense, along with some $3 trillion in commercial paper. (We know banks are panicking (or feeling exceptionally greedy) because we got a letter from
Bank of America raising the interest rate on the company credit card from 8.9% to 20.24%. Bah.)

- 8.9% to 20.24% in one go!
 
I dont believe it, I was (almost) ready to go short on the 3 minute chart of the Wall Street $2 mini at 13320 on the ATR, decided to wander off and make a coffee and pinch some of the other halfs "secret" stash of expensive choccies. When I came back it was down 80 pts .... lesson today kiddies, dont touch the choccies !! :banghead:

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I like how the HSI starts at 1145am, around the same time the SPI volume declines pre-lunch.

And the mini HSI has no lack of liquidity or volatility as well.
 
HSI selling off pretty solidly from the open
I know it finished off pretty well... but could this be the reason for downward momentum?

Looks like the Shanghai could very well be Shanghaid in the near future...
 

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Hey ya'll

I was wondering what vehicle you guys use to trade international indices. What's a good platform to use? I'm kinda keen to start.

Speiro
 
Hey ya'll

I was wondering what vehicle you guys use to trade international indices. What's a good platform to use? I'm kinda keen to start.

Speiro

Evening Speiro,

I use Interactive brokers for all of my trading-

http://individuals.interactivebrokers.com/en/main.php

They have pretty well all of the major international futures available, as well as quite a few of the major stock and options markets too.

Good platform, very cheap brokerage, and free data. Hard to beat IMO.
 
Hi PF, just a quick question

i'm about to open up an account with IB and was wondering what charting package would you recommend? I've heard good things about Quotetracker and Ninja tracker. Are there any others (reasonably priced of course :D)?
ALso are orders place with the TWS software, or could i use the above mentioned packages?

Cheers
 
Hi PF, just a quick question

i'm about to open up an account with IB and was wondering what charting package would you recommend? I've heard good things about Quotetracker and Ninja tracker. Are there any others (reasonably priced of course :D)?
ALso are orders place with the TWS software, or could i use the above mentioned packages?

Cheers

I use Ninja Trader with IB. I think its pretty good. The charts are as good as any other software I have used. What I like about Ninja Trader is the reporting and tracking of your trades. Makes it very easy to keep a detailed journal of your trades. As I trade a lot it makes the job very easy.

Another great function is the replay function. You can replay the days trading tick by tick at any speed and it will show your entries and exits on the chart as the action plays out. Very good for learning and reviewing your trading decisions. This is about 1000 times more useful than trying to learn from looking at static charts that are days or weeks old

You can just use it for charting and IB TWS for order entry and then it is free . If you want to use the Ninja Trader order execution and tracking part then you have to pay for the full version.
 
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