Inflation

[divs4ever]

That sounds deflationary?

using my family's experience in WW2 a LOT of stuff was rationed ( bread , butter , salt , flour , petrol etc etc etc ) BUT those cashed up could buy black-market ( alcohol , panty-hose , meat cigarettes , etc etc )

so which prices do you use the rationed goods ( with limited supply ) or black-market at 'free-market rates '

 

[3 hound]

using my family's experience in WW2 a LOT of stuff was rationed ( bread , butter , salt , flour , petrol etc etc etc ) BUT those cashed up could buy black-market ( alcohol , panty-hose , meat cigarettes , etc etc )

so which prices do you use the rationed goods ( with limited supply ) or black-market at 'free-market rates '

Dunno and don't really want to find out.

 

[divs4ever]

sadly we might go that path anyway

 

[over9k]

Wars are expensive. Capital has to be diverted to warfighting. This wrecks everything else.

 

[divs4ever]

Wars are expensive. Capital has to be diverted to warfighting. This wrecks everything else.

yes , but this time we would have to start manufacturing again ( which MIGHT be a good thing )

BTW have you remembered we are on the hook for 12 submarines and up to 100 F-35 fighters plus some assorted tanks i am wondering where we are going to get all these trained crews

but the main focus of war is to distract us from mind-numbing debt ( accumulated before-hand )

 

[over9k]

B-e-a-utiful.

 

[waterbottle]

US Atlanta Fed now reporting GDPNow figure of -1.0%.
The Recession is here. Now we wait for it to be official.
Energy and commodity stocks down big time, which makes sense if market now trying to price in a recession.View attachment 143511

LOL the GDPNow figure has been revised down to -2.1%!!!!!!

 

[qldfrog]

LOL the GDPNow figure has been revised down to -2.1%!!!!!!

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Could be -3% as easily as they have no real clue on inflation forecasts.
Let's summarise this as:
we ( and they really mean you peons) are in dire deep sxxt.....

 

[martaart077]

yes , but this time we would have to start manufacturing again ( which MIGHT be a good thing )

BTW have you remembered we are on the hook for 12 submarines and up to 100 F-35 fighters plus some assorted tanks i am wondering where we are going to get all these trained crews

but the main focus of war is to distract us from mind-numbing debt ( accumulated before-hand )

Trained crews could come from skilled migration from such source countries as India, China... maybe Ukraine.

 

[divs4ever]

for the crews ?? ( surely they wouldn't ) .. manufacturing critical parts ?? ( i think i would rather take up options trading )

you have to remember not every migrant thinks Australia is the land of milk and honey ( especially after they have been for a year or two )

 

[3 hound]

Trained crews could come from skilled migration

Sadly this is the easy and most Goto solution.

Draining other countries population and education investment to top up our own lack of planning.

 

[divs4ever]

i could just imagine the Ukrainian crew selling our submarine for a good price ( like they allegedly did with those French tanks ) the Chinese crew reverse engineering it and selling the IP , and the Indians totally confused on who the real enemy is ( after so many years of British occupation )

 

[divs4ever]

Former Reagan Advisor: Inflation Will Remain High Throughout 2023

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022...or-inflation-will-remain-high-throughout-2023

 

[over9k]

HMMMMMM

 

[3 hound]

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HMMMMMM

The transition to renewables seems to be going stellar.

 

[divs4ever]

The transition to renewables seems to be going stellar.

or catastrophic ( since the free-market isn't controlling it )

 

[3 hound]

or catastrophic ( since the free-market isn't controlling it )

Free market and control don't make sense in the same sentence.

 

[divs4ever]

Free market and control don't make sense in the same sentence.

yes , and that is why catastrophe is possible .

those dreaming of control might resort to desperate measures to retain ( strengthen ) control (' if i can't win nobody is allowed to win mentality ' )

 

[over9k]

Without subsidies even the miniscule amount of renewable we have now wouldn't exist.

"Green" energy is anything but green and anything but economical.

 

[divs4ever]

Without subsidies even the miniscule amount of renewable we have now wouldn't exist.

"Green" energy is anything but green and anything but economical.

mostly because government governments NEED to control , you might find 'off-grid ' small scale projects might actually be practical , especially if battery tech improves