If a Woolies shelf Stacker retires, we need a new one, it’s not always about new industries, and if that retired shelf stacker needs some one to change his nappies we then we have to create that job Too.If you aren't building productive industries and only increasing popultion to maintain a working age population, that is building non productive infrastructure, where is the net gain? Other than increasing population for population sake?
As I posted earlier, we are actually running a negative GDP per capita economy and I don't see many capital raisings or IPO's flying.
Nickel is on the nose, coal is a nono, iron ore is having it's day in the sun, but let's be honest things aren't rosy.
immigration without adequate infrastructure will create slum conditions
which is more racist , importing people we can't accommodate in a humane manner ( creating a desperate peasant class ) or restricting migration to those we can accommodate with dignity and equal opportunity
but a ( slightly) shrinking population will take the pressure off the crumbling infrastructure , remember the education system distracts a large amount of the younger work-force there are folks spending 6 to 8 years in university that could have been well on their way to earning their first million ( but accumulated education debt instead )The ship won’t right itself, in a country that has a birth rate of less than 2 per woman and where the life expectancy keeps rising, the population imbalance between young and old/ workers and retired will permanently be out of balance.
pig farm , no , chicken farms yes which is why i try to allow the farm chickens to range as much as is safe ( for them ) but then i am happy with eggs dailyI wonder how many people have been to a an industrial pig farm or chicken farm. And now fish farms have taken off, have a think about where all the faeces ends up.
smart usually means having confronting and unsettling ideas , thinking 'out of the box ' is routinely suppressed as it may create new leaders (in opposition to the status quo )We need smarter economists and politicians, ones that are able to think outside the box rather than the easy way of just increasing population.
I think crumbling infrastructure is a bit of a fallacy, we are building more than we ever have.but a ( slightly) shrinking population will take the pressure off the crumbling infrastructure , remember the education system distracts a large amount of the younger work-force there are folks spending 6 to 8 years in university that could have been well on their way to earning their first million ( but accumulated education debt instead )
one could reduce the areas of university education fields available and get some extra workers into the work-force
low birth-rates aren't set in stone ( yet ) they can recover over time ( when couples feel they can support/raise thee-four children adequately ) and maybe the infrastructure bottle-necks can be resolved one the way
And the more migration in. The more horrendous the country, the more people who can leave .aka the valuable ones either rich or educated/entrepreneurs.but a ( slightly) shrinking population will take the pressure off the crumbling infrastructure , remember the education system distracts a large amount of the younger work-force there are folks spending 6 to 8 years in university that could have been well on their way to earning their first million ( but accumulated education debt instead )
one could reduce the areas of university education fields available and get some extra workers into the work-force
low birth-rates aren't set in stone ( yet ) they can recover over time ( when couples feel they can support/raise thee-four children adequately ) and maybe the infrastructure bottle-necks can be resolved one the way
yes i have watched that all my adult life ( so is not a new trend )And the more migration in. The more horrendous the country, the more people who can leave .aka the valuable ones either rich or educated/entrepreneurs.
A hellish self perpetuating circle
But how do you match that opinion up with the fact that Australia has had constant immigration for 200 years, especially after WW2. Living standards has increased a lot over that time.And the more migration in. The more horrendous the country, the more people who can leave .aka the valuable ones either rich or educated/entrepreneurs.
A hellish self perpetuating circle
And the people left behind struggle to have anything like their parents lifestyle and do not want to inflict that to a next generation.
And then add the perpetual we are doomed, stop living/enjoying life scheme of global warming
Reproduction is left to the hords on welfare..and I do not even mention religions
But obviously, why would Australia learn from UK, France, Italy or now German and Swedish experiences..
So let's be a good socialist and bring in more migrants
I am sure we are different and it will end up well lol
And the more migration in. The more horrendous the country, the more people who can leave .aka the valuable ones either rich or educated/entrepreneurs.
A hellish self perpetuating circle
And the people left behind struggle to have anything like their parents lifestyle and do not want to inflict that to a next generation.
And then add the perpetual we are doomed, stop living/enjoying life scheme of global warming
Reproduction is left to the hords on welfare..and I do not even mention religions
But obviously, why would Australia learn from UK, France, Italy or now German and Swedish experiences..
So let's be a good socialist and bring in more migrants
I am sure we are different and it will end up well lol
so has France , albeit some of those migrants came heavily armed ( had a steady stream of migrants )But how do you match that opinion up with the fact that Australia has had constant immigration for 200 years, especially after WW2. Living standards has increased a lot over that time.
I hope that the next election will be about control immigration.
And I am so obviously an immigrant myself, residency provided after country quotas, minimal requirement in term of skills, age, language, police records, limited selected jobs at the time in demand etc etc and no access to welfare during the first year.True. Everything has a tipping point, we may be at that point now due to lazy politicians and greedy individuals getting richer from excessive immigration.
We don't need to keep ramping up immigration numbers to increase a workforce, we should first look at all measures of productivity improvements.
The lazy politicians can't be bothered doing the hard yards to improve productivity, it's not a vote winner.
Immigration should be a tool to improve country and society, and it once was. Now it is being used as a tool to increase demand, demand for products and real estate. Who benefits from that - large corporations that purchase and manufacture cheap products from cheap countries to sell here, they want more turnover, flooding the market and sending our little enterprises out.
I'm all for some immigration, my grandparents and parents came here between 1953 and 1960 from different countries, they had to pay their way and come in legally with skills to offer. Immigration was controlled to benefit the country and all who lived in it.
Now we have all sort of loopholes and guilt trips drip fed to us from social media and self interest gorups.
I hope that the next election will be about control immigration.
Do not play silly, you are more intelligent than that VC.But how do you match that opinion up with the fact that Australia has had constant immigration for 200 years, especially after WW2. Living standards has increased a lot over that time.
You have lost me, I have no idea the difference.Do not play silly, you are more intelligent than that VC.
I do not doubt that
You know very well the differences and why it matters
Last time I used a taxi, an actual taxi not Uber, in casual conversation with the driver it turned out he is, wait for it……..like the Polish civil engineer that became an interior decorator ( internal building painter to you ) of a biochemist , who went into the childcare business and then on the a news-agency , and finally running a health-food shop , and i have encountered many more stories like that
have come across some ( qualified ) automotive engineers driving taxis , the majority of Indian originLast time I used a taxi, an actual taxi not Uber, in casual conversation with the driver it turned out he is, wait for it……..
A doctor.
As in a GP. Driving taxis yes.
Says it all.
were his Qualifications recognised here yet?Last time I used a taxi, an actual taxi not Uber, in casual conversation with the driver it turned out he is, wait for it……..
A doctor.
As in a GP. Driving taxis yes.
Says it all.
I think you aren't thinking about the fact that societies and civilizations change over time. Just because birth rates are declining now it doesn't mean they cannot or will not ever reverse gear and start increasing in the future. Often times history moves in long cycles.The ship won’t right itself, in a country that has a birth rate of less than 2 per woman and where the life expectancy keeps rising, the population imbalance between young and old/ workers and retired will permanently be out of balance.
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