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So I didn't tell my wife, but I...
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Care to tell us what each are earning?Dad the farmer still working, eldest son mechanic at Tom Price highly qualified and highly paid, younger son vet, highly qualified and well paid but not in the same league financially. Both could comfortably retire before turning 50 thou
Dutch disease. Aka becoming a one trick pony.for now decades, I have lamented the Argentina-sion of Australia ,China here replacing the US for them and a focus on raw materials, easy live and urbanisation of the "elites"..a path not to follow a century later
Sone No 1 about 3k a week son no 2 about 1.5k a week, though both are set up pretty well for the future. Son No1 has a block in Jurien and a farmlet in geraldton where he and his wife are building a house. No 2 son has a small farmlet and a couple of rentals where he works.Care to tell us what each are earning?
Only have to listen to how the current generation speak these days. Yeah, nugh or the worst of the worst every second word "like". Beatnik talk from the 50's/60's and that's where it belongs. We were in my day taught to speak spell and wrte correctly.I got one of my sons to do an electrician apprenticeship. Imo it made sense considering the electrification of everything.
After his 4 years he can go do what he wants.
No one cares about the high pay. Not many young people want to do a trade. Not many stick because it's hard work. Hence the lack of trades.
Education in this country is terrible though. Tafe at the moment has the worst teachers on the planet.
Good grief, a fully qual'd vet only earns ~75k? :/Sone No 1 about 3k a week son no 2 about 1.5k a week, though both are set up pretty well for the future. Son No1 has a block in Jurien and a farmlet in geraldton where he and his wife are building a house. No 2 son has a small farmlet and a couple of rentals where he works.
Try telling that to a clueless 18 year old kid whose teachers, parents etc will basically disown them if they don't.
sadly that advice didn't fade out as the Boomers left middle age , now Unis make an industry out of it ( sucking in money from unemployable graduates ... of any age , no longer just the teens ) ( nearly every employer wants a worker who has had 12 years of indoctrination OOPS schooling , even for menial jobsTry telling that to a clueless 18 year old kid whose teachers, parents etc will basically disown them if they don't.
"You can study anything you want, as long as you go to university". It's boomer mentality/bad advice which, to be fair, was actually correct in the 70's.
But university is hardly the only thing boomers are out of touch about is it?
Ehhh not with you there smurf. If my kids want to study something useless I'm not going to let them ruin their lives with a sociology degree or something else equally pointless.I'll simply say I find it truly bizarre to think that an 18 year old wouldn't be making life decisions independently.
For that matter, that was expected and perfectly normal at age 15 / 16 "back in my day".
Any parent that doesn't support their kids pursuing their chosen career path needs a firm kick in my view. A very firm kick.
but now we are in the nanny state ( where they expect you to depend on the government for everything )I'll simply say I find it truly bizarre to think that an 18 year old wouldn't be making life decisions independently.
For that matter, that was expected and perfectly normal at age 15 / 16 "back in my day".
Any parent that doesn't support their kids pursuing their chosen career path needs a firm kick in my view. A very firm kick.
This is what I was getting at earlier - an 18 year old might be making an "independent" decision but if that decision is made on the back of some truly terrible advice...urging fully informed decisions for youngsters starting out
plenty of bad advice out there ( especially from those with vested interests , often pretending to be professionals )This is what I was getting at earlier - an 18 year old might be making an "independent" decision but if that decision is made on the back of some truly terrible advice...
My entire point is that teenagers are clueless and they really only have the advice of their seniors to go on. If that advice is bad, the teen makes a poor decision through no fault of their own.hopefully the teenagers know the correct questions to ask , first
If they're adults unable to make a sensible decision of their own accord then, no personal offence intended, I'll argue something's gone terribly wrong.If my kids want to study something useless I'm not going to let them ruin their lives with a sociology degree or something else equally pointless.
there is other advice out there , when i was unemployed ( decades back ) there used to be an unofficial network , XYZ employer was a crook/under-payer , company TZX was a death-trap etc etc , now today it might be an alternate social group ( say a forum on Reddit or Discord )My entire point is that teenagers are clueless and they really only have the advice of their seniors to go on. If that advice is bad, the teen makes a poor decision through no fault of their own.
I am pointing the finger at the bad advice being given by those who really should know better, not the kids themselves.
Yep and employed as a casual to boot even though he works about 80 hours a week, and on call every 2nd night.Good grief, a fully qual'd vet only earns ~75k? :/
LOLIf they're adults unable to make a sensible decision of their own accord then, no personal offence intended, I'll argue something's gone terribly wrong.
I don't think I'm in any way an exception but I honestly can't recall parents determining any aspect of my education whatsoever beyond grade 7. From year 8 onwards when choices have to be made, albeit relatively minor ones at first but they rapidly escalate, I made them all.
Bearing in mind I went to a different school for years 11 and 12, because the local high school only went to year 10, but suffice to say I did the whole thing myself. Turned up on the required day and enrolled in the required subjects. Caught the bus to the CBD then another bus to the school, reverse to come home.
Independence was the expected thing and what I did.
Times have changed since then though..... and we're getting way off the thread subject.
yes , those call-outs , but they can be a family wrecker ( especially the traveling )Yep and employed as a casual to boot even though he works about 80 hours a week, and on call every 2nd night.
Teach people how to think, not what to think, and the rest tends to fall into place. Assuming someone's worked out what they want to do post-school then it's not rocket science to find out what degree, TAFE course, apprenticeship etc gets them there.however at times there is something terribly wrong with this society , and that includes the education system
am more in the 'inspire them to think ' school , but then had the opportunity to see Julius Sumner Miller in person , in my younger yearsTeach people how to think, not what to think, and the rest tends to fall into place. Assuming someone's worked out what they want to do post-school then it's not rocket science to find out what degree, TAFE course, apprenticeship etc gets them there.
Back to inflation, prices of things I routinely buy seem to have levelled off at the moment. Whether that's the end or the eye of the storm remains to be seen....
Only him and his partner no offspring that we know about. But the call out and then fronting up at 7.30am has taken it's toll on him, over time.yes , those call-outs , but they can be a family wrecker ( especially the traveling )
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