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Inflation

Another recession indicator flashing

 
Another recession indicator flashing
IMO, it is a bit like the Paul Keating situation, the recession we had to have.
You will never put a lid on costs spiralling, if you don't burst peoples expectation, that the good times never stop rolling on.
It is times like now, where costs go up, wages go up, prices go up, statutory charges go up, house prices get bid up, that wealth inequality goes rampant.
The poor can't pass on their cost increases and they can't charge more for their skill set, so the Govt either has to increase the payments to the poor, or put a lid on the cost spiral.
I think it will be the later and IMO there is a fair way to go yet. :2twocents
 
IMO, it is a bit like the Paul Keating situation, the recession we had to have.
You will never put a lid on costs spiralling, if you don't burst peoples expectation, that the good times never stop rolling on.
It is times like now, where costs go up, wages go up, prices go up, statutory charges go up, house prices get bid up, that wealth inequality goes rampant.
The poor can't pass on their cost increases and they can't charge more for their skill set, so the Govt either has to increase the payments to the poor, or put a lid on the cost spiral.
I think it will be the later and IMO there is a fair way to go yet. :2twocents
Dark times.

None of the central bankers want deflation though - they're aiming for disinflation - and if by chance we do get deflation there will be measures to halt price falls.

As for wages, central banks don't like wage inflation.
 
Phil Lowe's statement is an interesting one to read, particularly given the pause last year that led to the belief that the rate hike cycle was done.
His statement says otherwise.
Some choice quotes:
  • Inflation is expected to decline this year due to both global factors and slower growth in domestic demand. The central forecast is for CPI inflation to decline to 4¾ per cent this year and to around 3 per cent by mid-2025 (where is 2%???)
  • The labour market remains very tight
  • Given the importance of avoiding a prices-wages spiral, the Board will continue to pay close attention to both the evolution of labour costs and the price-setting behaviour of firms in the period ahead.
  • The Board is seeking to return inflation to the 2–3 per cent range while keeping the economy on an even keel, but the path to achieving a soft landing remains a narrow one.
  • The Board expects that further increases in interest rates will be needed over the months ahead to ensure that inflation returns to target and that this period of high inflation is only temporary
 

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Only for tech, but still....
 
Australian survey expected inflation still above 5%. A very bad stat. I am thinking quite a few rate rises yet.
if following the standard procedure to control inflation , i agree

but so many different factors this time rapidly shifting definitions , changed calculating methods , policies previously unimaginable

have they some arcane plan or are they truly desperate , trying to stall , bluff and lie as long as they can

the GameStop saga springs to mind where some are so certain of the outcome they take on insane short positions waiting for the carnage

will it all come tumbling down or have central banks one last rescue mission left in them
 

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Only for tech, but still....
If you take the raw data, not the adjusted,they are losing. Jobs at. High speed.
Could it be the case that the very people forging data are now believing these?
 
Does this mean it's going to hurt for longer?
Of course it all depends on which group you talk to.
For the homeowners with mortgages, there pain is for real, will continue, and most likely get worse.
However, for self funded retirees, things are decidedly rosier, will continue to be rosy, and likely to get rosier.
Mick
 
Of course it all depends on which group you talk to.
For the homeowners with mortgages, there pain is for real, will continue, and most likely get worse.
However, for self funded retirees, things are decidedly rosier, will continue to be rosy, and likely to get rosier.
Mick
Not really when real inflation is 10% or more and your flash online saving is at 4% with the stock market crash ahead
 
Of course it all depends on which group you talk to.
For the homeowners with mortgages, there pain is for real, will continue, and most likely get worse.
However, for self funded retirees, things are decidedly rosier, will continue to be rosy, and likely to get rosier.
Mick
I remember when rates were hitting rock bottom and there was some concern about people leveraging too much. One politician ripped out some data and said average Aussie mortgage is only around 500k... so even if rates go high its no issue. I wonder what those stats would be now.. unadjusted ?

Anyway any investment is a gamble
 
Anyone wanna tell these clowns it should be much higher?
Yep as per usual most things go back to the long term trend, it isn't as though this is the first time interest rates have been higher than 0.5%.?

Don't worry some people have a plan.:rolleyes:
 
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