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I think the issue may be that chops isn't recognising my devils advocate inquiry approach... whereas some people are very matter-of-fact.
No doubt the extended Term Auction Facility provides extra liquidity. However there are a couple of points people should remember about them. They are NOT injections of new money. They are just temporary repos, that is, the money is drained back out again in a month or so.
Hmmm.... excuse me if I've been wrong, but you genuinely seem to have been bullish this whole way down...
Thanks for that Dhu... I was hoping you would clear it up for us plebs.
Surely then, the TAF is akin to rolling up or down on options to a later date, and just magnifying those problems anyway. Didn't know the fed was into trading.Oh that's right... all those puts!
Maybe Wayne can come in with the dangers of doing that.
What happens if the banks default to the feds on those TAFs?
Central bank bailout or acting as pawnbroker?
It may be helpful to use the analogy of a pawnbroker. Let's say my monthly rent of $1,000 is due on the 20th of this month. However I only have $700 in the bank and I don't get paid until the 25th. I'm $300 short for my rental payment and I also need to eat and pay for basic living expenses until I get paid.
So I take my Rolex down to the local pawnbroker. It's worth $2,500, the pawnbroker gives me $500 for it and keeps it as collateral in case I can't pay him back. I use $300 of the pawnbrokers loan to help pay the rent and use the remaining $200 for basic living expenses.
Then on the 25th I get paid, I go down to the pawnbroker pay him his $500 back plus some interest and he gives me my watch back.
Think of the Fed as a pawnbroker to the banks and other institutions that need to fund their short term liquidity requirements. Of course the Fed's terms will be much more generous than your average pawnbroker.
TIPS' Yields Show Fed Has Lost Control of Inflation (Update1)
By Sandra Hernandez and Deborah Finestone
March 10 (Bloomberg) -- Bond investors have never been so sure that the Federal Reserve will lose control of inflation. They're so convinced that they're giving up yields just to buy debt securities that protect against rising consumer prices.
The yield on the five-year Treasury Inflation-Protected Security due in 2012 has been negative since Feb. 29, ending last week at minus 0.16 percent. The notes, which were first sold in 1997, have never before traded below zero. Even so, firms from Deutsche Asset Management to Vanguard Group Inc., the second-biggest U.S. mutual fund company, say TIPS are a bargain.
For the first time in a generation, money managers must come to grips with a central bank that's more intent on spurring the economy than restraining price increases. With oil above $100 a barrel, gold approaching $1,000 an ounce and the dollar at a record low against the euro, TIPS show investors aren't convinced Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke will be able to tame inflation once policy makers stop cutting interest rates.
``The way TIPS are trading now, investors believe headline inflation will stay lofty and are willing to give up the real yield for that,'' said Brian Brennan, a money manager who helps oversee $11 billion in fixed-income assets at T. Rowe Price Group Inc. based in Baltimore. Prices for the securities indicate ``a real concern of a recession and high headline inflation,'' he said.
Because TIPS pay a principal amount that rises in tandem with the consumer price index, buyers accept lower yields in a bet the inflation adjustment will make up the difference.
Volcker Fed
Investors typically determine what they are willing to receive in interest by deducting the rate of inflation expected over the life of the securities from the rate on a comparable Treasury. Investors can still earn money from TIPS with sub-zero rates because the principal rises with the CPI.
Five-year TIPS yielded 2.35 percentage points less than similar-maturity Treasuries as of 2:45 p.m. in Tokyo. The so- called breakeven rate has risen from a four-and-a-half-month low of 1.89 percent on Jan. 23, the day after policy makers cut their target lending rate by three-quarters of a point to 3.50 percent in an emergency move.
The last time investors were so worried about faster inflation amid slowing growth, Paul A. Volcker presided over a Fed that would raise rates as high as 20 percent to end the stagflation crisis of the 1970s, according to Seth Plunkett, a bond fund manager at American Century Investment Management in Mountain View, California. The firm manages $20 billion.
Fed Forecast
Inflation ``is going to be higher than the Fed's targeted area,'' said Plunkett, whose fund owns a greater percentage of TIPS than contained in the index he uses to measure performance.
In forecasts released last month, the Fed said it expects inflation to accelerate 2.1 percent to 2.4 percent this year, and 1.7 percent to 2 percent in 2009.
TIPS have returned 6.2 percent this year, compared with 3.7 percent from regular Treasuries, according to indexes compiled by Merrill Lynch & Co. Mutual funds that specialize in inflation-linked debt attracted a net $2.87 billion in January, boosting their assets to $47.6 billion, according the latest data available from Financial Research Corp. in Boston. In all of 2007, the funds added a net $3.54 billion.
``TIPS are a really good buy,'' said Bill Chepolis, a money manager who helps oversee $9 billion at Deutsche Asset Management in New York. He bought five-year TIPS in the last six months. ``They're cheap with the Fed continuing to emphasize growth over inflation and inflation continuing to come in higher.''
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aE3uq61ajc.4&refer=home
if a US investment bank was caught sniffing glue would it qualify to be called in-solvent??
Cheers
............Kauri
Bear Stearns Shares Fall on Liquidity Speculation (Update1)
By Jeff Kearns
March 10 (Bloomberg) -- Bears Stearns Cos. fell 13 percent in New York trading, the most since the 1987 stock market crash, on speculation the company lacks sufficient access to capital.
Bear Stearns, the second-biggest underwriter of mortgage- backed bonds, declined $8.53 to $61.55 in composite trading on the New York Stock Exchange at 11:55 a.m., the lowest level since March 2003. Earlier today it traded as low as $60.26.
``There's an insolvency rumor and concerns on liquidity, that they just have no cash,'' said Michael Mainwald, head of equity trading at Lek Securities Corp. in New York. ``There's been rumors of this for the past week or two.''
Russell Sherman, a spokesman for New York-based Bear Stearns, didn't immediately return a call for comment.
To contact the reporter on this story: Jeff Kearns in New York at jkearns3@bloomberg.net.
Lol!
And even with that amount of protection, the US is still infected seven ways from Sunday.
But the markets aren't coming off nearly enough for my greedy liking atm. Want to see 11,000 on the dow at least by the end of the week...
As for the fed having this anywhere near control:
As I was saying on another thread today, you're going to have to expect to see some of these majors go under...
Moody"s has downgraded a number of ratings on 163 tranches of Bear Stearns Alt-A deals.
for whom the bell TOLLS!!
this entire discussion reminds me of the january doom and gloom phase just before the big bounce the dead cat is looking a little twitchy again
out of interest who actually feels that a recession in the US could already be priced into the market?
At some point, probably soon, there will be a large correction to this move down. It has been one way traffic since November. Whether or not it is the ultimate market bottom is a moot point.
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