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IIN - iiNet Limited

iiNet bounces back with $23.2m profit
20-August-07 by AAP
http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/55946/iiNet-turns-around-prior-loss-to-make-23-2m-profit-in-2006-07

Perth-based internet access services company iiNet Ltd has reported an annual profit, turning around earlier losses, and says it expects market conditions to remain buoyant this year.

The company made a net profit of $23.2 million in the 2006-07 financial year, compared to a loss of $62.5 million in the previous year.

iiNet has predicted continued buoyant operating conditions in the 2007-08 and growth in group revenue and earnings.

"The company's strong balance sheet provides an excellent base for growth, both organic and through acquisition," managing director Michael Malone said.

The result for the year ended June 30 included a $5.4 million profit on the sale of iiNet's ihug service business.

Underlying earnings, before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation, rose to $39.1 million, from $18.1 million.

The result followed iiNet's decision to pre-price unprofitable internet access plans, increase its network traffic and control costs.

iiNet declared a final dividend of five cents.



Earnings Highlights

iiNet Limited (ASX:iin) today released a record Net Profit after Tax ("NPAT") result of $23.3m and EBITDA of $45.9m. The NPAT result included a $5.4 million profit from the sale of ihug and $6.9 million from the settlement of the line sharing services ("LSS") charges from Telstra that relate to the period prior to FY07.

iiNet's underlying EBITDA from continuing operations was $39.1 million in FY07 compared to $18.1 million in FY06, an increase of $21 million. The significant improvement in the underlying EBITDA was due to the success of the Company's 'Protect the Core' strategy that included the following key initiatives:


Re-pricing unprofitable plans;
Increasing the proportion of broadband customers iiNet has on its own national network;
Tight cost controls in the business; and
A $6.50 per month decrease in the regulated charge for LSS charges to $2.50 per month for each on-net customer.
A fully franked final dividend of 5.0 cents per share has been declared taking the full year dividend pay out to 6.0 cents per share.

As a result of improved trading from operations and the sale of ihug, the net debt position of the Company improved significantly, falling from $50.5m at 30 June 2006 to $7.7m at 30 June 2007.

"The Company's strong balance sheet provides an excellent base for growth, both organic and through acquisition,", said iiNet Managing Director Michael Malone.

Operational Highlights


Major national marketing campaign
Expansion of own broadband network to truly national scale
Roll out of low-cost dark fibre network connections
Continued high customer rating and support

In late April 2007, iiNet launched a major marketing campaign in Perth and Sydney aimed at increasing brand awareness in those markets. Survey results show there has been a substantial lift in brand awareness. Along with network ownership and outstanding customer service, the Company expects brand equity to be a major driver of success in the next two years as the broadband market saturates.

In 2004, iiNet commenced construction of Australia's first national ADSL2+ broadband network. Today, the Company has its own equipment in 283 exchanges, reaching around 75% of metropolitan households. The Company plans to increase this by at least 30 more exchanges in the coming year. This investment is a key asset providing product differentiation and giving iiNet control of its major costs.

iiNet has also been pursuing a strategy of moving its metropolitan transmission ("backhaul") to dark fibre. iiNet now has 156 exchanges connected via dark fibre with an additional 57 to be connected by December 2007. The costs associated with dark fibre transmission are fixed while the cost of traditional backhaul solutions increases with usage.

iiNet has always aimed to provide awesome customer service, regarding this as a critical and sustainable differentiator. The Company has commenced using the Net Promoter Score ("NPS") methodology to monitor its performance. NPS shows the proportion of customers who are strong advocates, less those who are simply satisfied. Research undertaken demonstrates there is a high correlation between NPS and earnings growth. The results of the surveys conducted to date show iiNet is achieving results well ahead of other Australian telecommunications companies, and scores approaching that of Apple and Google.

During the year, iiNet was awarded the prestigious international 4-star rating for outstanding innovation in customer service from Genesys for its virtualisation of its 3 call centres in Perth, Sydney and Auckland (collectively called "the VCC"). This allows calls to be answered by the first available customer service representative irrespective of their location. This has assisted in improving call responsiveness and customer satisfaction.

Board Changes

iiNet Chairman Peter Harley has announced his decision to stand down as a director of the Company once the search for his replacement is complete.

Mr Harley joined the board in 1999 and has served the Company as Chairman since 2002. He is a non-executive Director and Chairman on several other listed and private companies.

In May 2006, when the Company encountered difficulties, Mr Harley stepped into an Executive Chairman role for six months to assist management.

"Over the past decade, Peter has led the company in its move from a small private business to a listed and credible telecommunications company," said Mr Malone. "His leadership and support has been particularly important in the turn around of the business in the past year."

The new Chairman is expected to be announced prior to the Annual General Meeting.

FY08 Objectives


Strong growth in revenue and earnings
Expansion of major marketing campaign in Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide
Launch of new products, including wireless hot spot service
Focus on iiNet's best-in-class customer service.
iiNet is predicting continued buoyant operating conditions in FY08 and growth in group revenue and earnings.

During FY08, iiNet will continue the current marketing campaign with an emphasis on direct marketing. The brand awareness campaign will also be extended to other cities during the year.

Supporting the sales campaign will be the release of a number of new products beginning with a product known as naked DSL. This is still a high speed ADSL broadband service but does not require the customer to rent a basic telephone line. The Company also expects to launch a wireless hot spot product which will give iiNet customers access to the Internet outside their home.

The focus on the 'Protect the Core' strategy was directed at tightly controlling costs. This is a process that will continue as the Company seeks better ways to conduct its business.

Further investment in VCC technology and staff training will continue in FY08 as the Company seeks to enhance customer service levels even further. The objective is to increase customer advocacy as service becomes an ever more important differentiator.

"The applications of broadband are changing and become more complex," said Mr Malone.

"Outstanding customer service is the one way in which iiNet can stand apart from its competitors and help customers to take advantage of the new applications that become possible with access to high speed broadband."
 
I'm actually a little bit suprised by its results. Given the increased competition of very high-speed broadband (i.e. ADSL2+) from a number of large companies such as TPG and Optus, I'm a little bit wary of the potential growth of iinet.
 
I'm actually a little bit suprised by its results. Given the increased competition of very high-speed broadband (i.e. ADSL2+) from a number of large companies such as TPG and Optus, I'm a little bit wary of the potential growth of iinet.
I don't know about TPG but Optus is going to count uploads. That can potentially reduce their number of users given that Internet users nowadays are not just downloading content but they do uploading content, too. The following is from Whirlpool web site (2007-Jul-8, 2:15 pm).

http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1744?show=replies

"OPINION | Optus will join an exclusive club by counting uploads ”” Telstra BigPond and Dodo are the only other large ISPs doing so. Although it is only happening on new plans, Optus users will no doubt be worried that their older plans could be phased out and replaced with those that count uploads too.

This is also not the first time Optus has followed Telstra into reduced broadband value (remember the 3GB cap?) Given Optus has tried to sell itself as a much better alternative to Telstra in the current politically charged broadband debate, it seems like a strange move to show us just how much like Telstra they can be."
 
IIN - iinet

IINET is comfortably looking to be around the 50 Mill EBITDA for 2008 and it's trading currently at $2.06. If you look back to the last time it was at that level (before they stuffed up and Telstra was looming as a threat) the shares were trading at $3.23

Could be some upside coming in the next few months as they are debt free and earning great cash flow. Euroz have a buy up to $2.61 which I think is a little on the light side.

TNZ/AAPT will have to look at buying them before that price gets to high although with current trading they may have to pay around the $3.40+ mark to get them now.
 
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They now have a larger bank balance.. I recieved an email yesterday saying my credit card payment was rejected and that they had suspended my account my wife rang to enquire why it was disconected and was told of the failure. they then got my wife to give them MY card details over the phone and without my knowledge double charged me When I rang to enquire what had happened as my card showed the 2 transactions. Was told that they knew of the problem as it suspended ALL subscribers who paid by card by direct debit on 23rd but failed to tell their Customer service people who insisted on a double payment to reconnect customers resultingin a double income on the day.

Outcome of the event.. "sorry we cant refund the money but will credit it towards next months invoice.... iinet to reap the interest"

SEMPER UBI SUB UBI
 
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iinet buys Westnet
May 8, 2008 - 4:38PM

http://business.theage.com.au/iinet-buys-westnet/20080508-2c6y.html

Telecommunications company Iinet will buy Westnet for $81 million in cash, to reinforce its position as Australia's third-largest internet service provider.

iinet shares closed up 14% after the Perth-based company said it would fund the acquisition by raising $41 million in a share sale - and the remainder through cash and debt. Its shares gained 23 cents to close at $1.88.

The company will sell 25.6 million new shares at $1.60 each to investor clients of Euroz Securities, it said in a statement.

Westnet, Australia's sixth largest ISP, will bring 215,000 phone and internet subscriptions, raising Iinet's total to more than 680,000.

iinet's dialup and broadband subscribers will to increase to 470,000 through the acquisition, which the company expects to complete by the end of the month.

iinet, which will retain the Westnet brand and staff, said the companies were particularly strong in Western Australia, and the combined subscriber base would cover more than 30% of that market.

"Both Westnet and Iinet have always focused on genuine plain-speaking customer service, seeing that as the only really sustainable differentiator in our business,'' Iinet managing director Michael Malone said in the statement.

"Westnet has consistently set the benchmark for service in our industry, and I look forward to learning how we can improve Iinet's service even further.''

Westnet will continue as a separate operating entity.

"This opportunity allows the company to continue that same level of customer service and also offer many new products to our agents and customers,'' Westnet managing director Peter Brown said.
 
Re: IIN - iinet

jumped 7.48% the other day on news that it will sell mobile broadband.

What's everyones thoughts on this stock now?
 
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They didn't even recover the loses from two days ago and they are currently buying their own shares back plus there was very low volume for the day.
 
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Decision in the Federal Court of Australia regarding claims that iiNet authorised copyright infringements committed by its various customers due on 4 February 2010.

Won't be the last of it, though. If iiNet wins the decision, I'm of the view that the claimants (the studios) will appeal the decision to the full Federal Court. I suspect that iiNet would also appeal if it lost.
 
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Decision in the Federal Court of Australia regarding claims that iiNet authorised copyright infringements committed by its various customers due on 4 February 2010.

Won't be the last of it, though. If iiNet wins the decision, I'm of the view that the claimants (the studios) will appeal the decision to the full Federal Court. I suspect that iiNet would also appeal if it lost.

Copyright infringement is an interesting case and it all depends on how smartly your legal adviser proves who was at default.

We may recall that recently Joe Blow our Administrator has raised this issue when lot of us (including me) have reproduced full or part of paid newsletter reports deemed to be under copy right provision.

One of such paid report is Eureka Report and there are many as you know. Interestingly however Eureka Report cries fowl when some one reproduces even a line from their publication with due recognition of the source.

At the same time Eureka Report shamelessly reproduces other paid news letter reports in their circulation withut even any credence of the source. One may beg the question how come the same copyright act does not work for ER ?

Just my thoughts how same action be seen as illegal and legal by the same person ?

This is not a legal or any kind of advice. I am just sharing my thoughts to know how people see it half glass empty or half glass full .
 
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The decision was delivered this morning and iiNet succeeded in defending the claims brought against it by the 34 studios of authorising copyright infringement.

I'm about 75% of the way through the 200 page judgment (it's research for my line of work) and I'm impressed by the technical knowledge shown by his Honour, Mr Justice Cowdroy, as well as his Honour's robustness of his decision.

I've no doubt that the studios will appeal as they will take the view that it's easier to sue 5-10 ISPs rather than millions of individuals but IMO it would be a difficult case to make out that his Honour got the law wrong.

Disclaimer - The above should not be taken as legal advice and is not intended as such. As always, DYOR and form your opinions.
 
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Couldn't agree more Pauley.

This gets close to my line of work too.......and to me, the case against IIN can only be made out if there is a broader policy objective external to the court case....

Because on the facts, it is internet users who may be breaching copyright based on the facts and circumstances of each instance............WHAT the hell has that got to do with IIN!!!! The whole prospect that IIN may be at fault is ludicrous.

What right has the chick in officeworks got to stop me photocopying a book.............is the chick in officeworks now a judge and a jury???

Anyway, I love this stock too.........and my puppies up are 12% today.....so go you sweet thang!
 
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Suing IIN for allowing piracy is like suing AusPost because some people send drugs in the mail. It's stupid.

Anyhoo, anyone care to guess how the share prices will go when the halt is lifted?
 
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Suing IIN for allowing piracy is like suing AusPost because some people send drugs in the mail. It's stupid.

Anyhoo, anyone care to guess how the share prices will go when the halt is lifted?

I think most likely nowhere (apart from reacting to the general market influences), since most people are expecting an appeal no matter who won this case.
 
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Just announced purchase of AAPT consumer division on 30th July - bang up from 2.66 to high of 3.13 over next few days... and then oops down in last two days back to 2.60??

anyone know whats going on - is this because AAPT's shares are now coming on the market and being sold off (did I see AAPT sold them for 2.50 a share??)

IIN now trading at PE of 8 for FY11 after taking into account benefits from AAPT acquistion
 
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Just announced purchase of AAPT consumer division on 30th July - bang up from 2.66 to high of 3.13 over next few days... and then oops down in last two days back to 2.60??

anyone know whats going on - is this because AAPT's shares are now coming on the market and being sold off (did I see AAPT sold them for 2.50 a share??)

IIN now trading at PE of 8 for FY11 after taking into account benefits from AAPT acquistion

I may come on as a bias opinion as I got shares in Telstra
but what TLS intention of doing in the next few years will have impact on iinet margin and all the other smaller ISP.

TLS will start a price war, this will be good for consumers, these small guys has to compete to retain market share and to do that they have to lower the price and that will cut into margin, cut into margin = cut into earnings.

and I'm skeptical of them buying AAPT business, this business has been a bit of a dog but some people think iinet can do a lot better..wait and see

I got iinet broadband but TLS shares :) so if TLS deal get better I naturally going to switch but that is just me ...
 
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I posted this on another forum but not sure of the rules of linking there so reposting here.

bloomberg.com
/news/2010-08-13/tpg-telecom-iinet-slump-in-sydney-on-speculation-telstra-will-cut-prices.html (sorry not linked as I haven't yet posted 5 posts!)

Typical market over-reaction IMO.

I'm an iiNet shareholder (and Telstra too) but because of my location I could only get a pretty slow and unreliable DSL service. About 6 weeks ago Telstra released some very attractive bundle deals so I switched to Bigpond Cable.

Note that was 6 weeks ago. In the mean time Internode and iiNet have been complaining to the ACCC that Telstra is now selling retail below wholesale costs - that's been in the press for weeks.

I don't know what these so called investors are doing if its taken them this long to realise Telstra/Bigpond is competitive again.

All that said, I'm still an iiNet shareholder. I don't think that product pricing is the whole story. TPG and iiNet have very disparate pricing and even MM acknowledges that. At the end of the day its the combination of product, pricing, marketing, and quality of service that determines success.

Just as an aside, Telstra products are pretty good. The network is great, and the staff try really hard to provide good service. But they are foiled by the horrendous mess that is Telstra's IT systems.

To give you an example, I wanted to remove MessageBank from my phone line. I thought I should be able to do this on the website, or even just be dialling a code on the phone. Nope, I have to call up. I call up, I go through an IVR that identifies that I want to disable MessageBank, it identifies my calling line ID, asks for my DOB, and then puts me through to a consultant. The consultant asks for my DOB again to verify my ID -- didn't I just give this to the IVR a second ago? Anyway, she then cancels MessageBank on my line per my request, and informs me it'll take up to 24 hours for request to go through "the system".

To achieve the same outcome on iiNet I would just log in to their online Toolbox and do it myself.

I'm not complaining about the Telstra process as a rabid angry customer - I just question why the IVR has all the required details, then has to put me through to an expensive support person in order to achieve the desired outcome.

On Whirlpool you can see the multitude of issues Telstra's IT systems cause. Users can't get case/ticket numbers to track their issues, Bigpond is unable to account for usage in a timely manner (it randomly delays it from 15 minutes up to 8 hours), and my favourite one - users aren't even able to order what they want reliably because the systems magically lose and transform orders.

Of course no one is perfect. But the concept of Telstra competing on price and squashing everyone including iiNet and TPG to the tune of a 8+% single day drop is ludicrous.

I hope MM and his team don't prove me wrong when they release the next round of plan revisions and numbers. ;)

PS: after market today TPG released the following announcement: asx.com.au
/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=01088108
 
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I got iinet broadband but TLS shares :) so if TLS deal get better I naturally going to switch but that is just me ...

And you have a iinet connection because Telstra are uncompetitive...in fact Telstra is the most expensive and confusing company to deal with when it comes to internet and phone services in general....iinet lead the way as far as quality and pricing goes.
 
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