I think the media should be held to account... what do you think?

[Garpal Gumnut]

Stay calm, Comrades.

gg

 

[rederob]

Man, you really are a persistent mofo. I’m serious when I say this, but you need help dude...serious help. I think you’re a little unhinged. As for having balls to finish what I started...message me and I’ll be more than happy to make some arrangements with you.

Again, this is the response of people who get caught out and are too gutless to fess up.
But rather than admit it, blame the other party.
How many chances do you need to be honest?

 

[MovingAverage]

Again, this is the response of people who get caught out and are too gutless to fess up.
But rather than admit it, blame the other party.
How many chances do you need to be honest?

“Fess up” and “blame the other party”....you really have lost the plot “how many chances do you need to be honest”...you sound like some small town 80s cop with that line of questioning. Take your meds, you know you need them. I’m still waiting for you to message me

 

[qldfrog]

I don't have a beef. Morrison is doing an excellent job so far. Very hopeful he will get us through this like South Korea has got through it.

He has really lifted in my view. The Health Minister and the Treasurer have also impressed.

I think all facets of the media on the whole within Australia are doing a pretty good job also.

The crap causing problems is from the USA. Like that talk show doctor, blaming the media while lying about the facts, hope someone over there sues him.

Nice one @Knobby22 , you earned a beer/glass of shiraz next time you are around,..post virus

 

[IFocus]

Problems with the media....you bet this is priceless........

 

[MovingAverage]

Problems with the media....you bet this is priceless........

Like I say...the media has been irresponsible, sensationalist and very loose with the truth and needs to be held to account.

 

[banco]

If the media had been more alarmist eariler we might have less of a problem now.

Seems like some desiccated LNP supporters are more annoyed that the media hasn't genuflected towards the LNP's fantastic leadership (like letting in thousands of people from cruise ships with close to zero checks).

 

[rederob]

Like I say...the media has been irresponsible, sensationalist and very loose with the truth and needs to be held to account.

The problem is that you began a thread which was completely inaccurate in intent.
You compounded your incompetence by further claims which were bald faced lies.
There are media outlets that will sensationalise and distort and they are easy to find, so why not be honest and use facts to support your contentions on those elements.
And while you are at it, cease with your ad hominems as they truly cast you in a poor light.

 

[MovingAverage]

The problem is that you began a thread which was completely inaccurate in intent.
You compounded your incompetence by further claims which were bald faced lies.
There are media outlets that will sensationalise and distort and they are easy to find, so why not be honest and use facts to support your contentions on those elements.
And while you are at it, cease with your ad hominems as they truly cast you in a poor light.

 

[basilio]

This story from The Guardians Editor reflects the challenges of the media doing it "righyt" in terms of reporting the unfolding CORVID 19 crisis.

The coronavirus story is unfathomably large. We must get the reporting right
Lenore Taylor
Our coverage of the biggest event of our lives is a defining challenge for the news media

‘How should we balance legitimate questioning of government decisions with the danger of further undermining further public faith in expert advice and institutions?’ Photograph: Mick Tsikas/AAP

The news rolls in like waves. One unfathomably huge development crashing on another. President Donald Trump has shut US borders. Now Australia is closed to foreigners too. Scott Morrison is spending billions. The surplus is history, a recession now inevitable. The graph of confirmed cases soars. The death count climbs. The job losses rise. We were allowed to attend the football, then only smaller gatherings, now we have to measure the space between us and other human beings, soon there may be localised lock downs. Daily life is shutting down, closing in, to makeshift home offices and socially distant outings to supermarkets where there’s not much to buy. And that’s just in the last week.


I’m thinking carefully about how Guardian Australia reports on the biggest event of our lives. How do we track these daily convulsions and make sense of how society is shattering and how or when it will recover. Reporting the coronavirus pandemic is a defining challenge and responsibility for the news media. It demands deep consideration.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...homably-large-we-must-get-the-reporting-right

 

[basilio]

Have to say when I see rabid Right Wing shock jock nut cases like SEan Hannity denying the words they said only two weeks ago without any sense of apology my blood boils.

But then he is just repeating the same lying response that Donald Trump is currently undertaking as he defends his January/February response to the COVID 19 crisis.

Trump dismisses report on early coronavirus warnings as 'inaccurate'

US intelligence agencies raised concerns in January and February, while the president minimized the risk, the Washington Post said

Donald Trump has dismissed a report that he ignored early warnings from US intelligence agencies about the threat posed by the coronavirus outbreak in China and repeated recent attacks on the press.

The agencies sounded the alarm in January and February but the president continued to minimize the risk and failed to act, the Washington Post reported.

On Saturday, Trump, who has made a habit of shooting the media messenger, attacked the Post without dealing with any of the substance of the allegations contained in the reporting.

“I think the Washington Post covers us very inaccurately, covers me very inaccurately,” he told reporters at the daily White House coronavirus task force briefing. “I saw the story. I think it’s a disgrace but it’s the Washington Post and I guess we have to live with it. It’s a very inaccurate –”


Bluff, bombast and blame is all that Donald Trump can offer in this crisis
Nick Cohen

Read more
As a journalist tried to interject, Trump raised his hand and snapped: “Quiet, quiet.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/21/trump-us-coronavirus-warning-china

 

[frugal.rock]

I have flipped on this.

Let the media ramp, scaremonger, point fingers whatever. Whatever it takes to get the word back to it's semblance of normality, whatever that is anymore.
If we had Uber drone deleveries, no need to go to the shop.

Shut it all down today.
Rip off the band aid.

F.Rock

 

[SirRumpole]

Andrew Probyn on ABC.

There is a looming health "catastrophe" and the public will have to steel themselves that thousands of people will die.

Alarmist ? IMO yes.

If people do the right thing then we should be able to limit the infection, and the media need to get with the program, not needlessly scare people.

 

[rederob]

Andrew Probyn on ABC.

There is a looming health "catastrophe" and the public will have to steel themselves that thousands of people will die.

Alarmist ? IMO yes.

If people do the right thing then we should be able to limit the infection, and the media need to get with the program, not needlessly scare people.

Given we have some of the most lax internal measures in the world, a looming catastrophe is a bit weak.
We have moved the goal post to a probable catastrophe.
Our local shopping centre this morning was very much business as usual with people traffic, except in cafes. The food court area is not classed as a cafe/restaurant so tables are the same distance apart as before. Some people were doing their best at social distancing, but on the whole, not much change except where checkouts had "place markers" (and not all stores had them).
Schools remain open and contact sports are being played - at least some are.
Then we have the exceptionally bright NSW government allowing thousands of passengers to disembark from cruise ships in recent days without mandatory testing or quarantining arrangements.
Many other nations have involved their military in a number of ways - what is ours doing?
It's all good and well pouring tens of billions into the economic ramifications, but right now every arm of government should have been mobilised to put in place public and community health measures which would have gone a long way to ameliorating the economic stimuli.
Not too sure how many more people need to point to what China did, and then Korea, to put a lid on COVID-19, and suggest we do the same.
Sadly we have a Trumpian type as our PM who continues to be on the backfoot and acts too late.

 

[MovingAverage]

sticking the boots into the liberal party...would never has seen that come from you

 

[SirRumpole]

Given we have some of the most lax internal measures in the world, a looming catastrophe is a bit weak.
We have moved the goal post to a probable catastrophe.
Our local shopping centre this morning was very much business as usual with people traffic, except in cafes. The food court area is not classed as a cafe/restaurant so tables are the same distance apart as before. Some people were doing their best at social distancing, but on the whole, not much change except where checkouts had "place markers" (and not all stores had them).
Schools remain open and contact sports are being played - at least some are.
Then we have the exceptionally bright NSW government allowing thousands of passengers to disembark from cruise ships in recent days without mandatory testing or quarantining arrangements.
Many other nations have involved their military in a number of ways - what is ours doing?
It's all good and well pouring tens of billions into the economic ramifications, but right now every arm of government should have been mobilised to put in place public and community health measures which would have gone a long way to ameliorating the economic stimuli.
Not too sure how many more people need to point to what China did, and then Korea, to put a lid on COVID-19, and suggest we do the same.
Sadly we have a Trumpian type as our PM who continues to be on the backfoot and acts too late.

I certainly agree about the cruise ships, that was complete stupidity. My general point about Probyn was that he was putting his own spin on the issue and projecting the most pessimistic outcome instead of reporting the facts and keeping the governments honest about what was actually being done.

 

[rederob]

I certainly agree about the cruise ships, that was complete stupidity. My general point about Probyn was that he was putting his own spin on the issue and projecting the most pessimistic outcome instead of reporting the facts and keeping the governments honest about what was actually being done.

With respect Rumpy, the pessimistic outcome is nearer 3% of 50% of the population, although maybe our health system can get it down to the high tens of thousands.
Just remember we get as a minimum a few thousand deaths from the common flu each year, and this virus is variously estimated around 30 times as deadly.

 

[rederob]

sticking the boots into the liberal party...would never has seen that come from you

Are you unintelligent?
Scomo appears to be ignoring the best lessons from overseas experiences which have proved successful.
What that has to do with the Liberal Party is anyone's guess.
This is a medical health emergency, not a political crisis.
Scomo is, however, doing his best to be as well regarded as Trump in tackling the issue.
So let's put some flesh on this.
Scomo knew from the recent national bushfires that we had no "national emergency" powers in federal legislation: it's all with the states. What did he do?
Answer: nothing!
So we now have another crisis.
What are the feds doing?
Blaming the states when they get it wrong rather than bringing them all together (electronically) and agreeing on consistent national principles.
We, the public, are being treated a bit like crash test dummies.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Stay calm comrades,

gg

 

[Trendnomics]

An example of the media using their platform effectively: