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This is such an important distinction.
Most people when speaking of RE investment are speaking of buying a pile of bricks, renting it out so somebody and look to create positive cashflow and/or capital gain. In other words a fairly passive "investment".
...and we've seen this all before.
...and we've seen the results before.
You've hit the nail on the head there IMO.This is such an important distinction.
Most people when speaking of RE investment are speaking of buying a pile of bricks, renting it out so somebody and look to create positive cashflow and/or capital gain. In other words a fairly passive "investment".
What you're talking about Tech is not really relevant to the topic at hand which is more about the passive investment in RE. Valuable information though it is and certainly an option if folks are inclined towards that sort of thing.
...Meanwhile, according to an article at news.com.au, “A survey conducted by career networking site Linkme.com.au shows that 34.3 per cent of Australians live ‘pocket-to-mouth’. And while 82 per cent would like to plan their finances better, 43.5 per cent say they did not make enough money to be able to budget any differently. And for 29.6 per cent in the survey of more than 800 respondents, they say unexpected expenses always get in the way of getting ahead financially.”
Hmm. Unexpected expenses are unavoidable. Sometimes you break your arm and need a cast. Sometimes your car needs work. And if there’s a hole in your roof, you can’t afford not to fix it.
But how is it possible that things are so bad you can’t afford to budget differently? If things are that bad, can you afford to keep making the same mistakes? It’s an absurd statement, that you can’t afford to do things differently. People are finding out the hard way that you can’t get something for nothing. Only they refuse to believe it. Too bad.
Dan Denning
The Daily Reckoning Australia
Well let me think for a moment...
We currently have record low Unemployment, low Interest Rates and low Lending Standards.
Now has anyone thought what happens when either Unemployment goes up, Interest Rates go up, or if Lending Standards are tightened, or if all of the above variables are tightened at once?
hello,
great post slooi1
i think your example of house 1 & 2 is spot on, and remember 1 doesnt have to be some primo multi million dollar house, house type 1 is over all price brackets
houses are so individual and I doubt if any here go out and do the hard yards looking at what things are going for, i have and people think you make things up
i dont know what is going to happen to property, all I am saying is things are definitely not flat, yet people assume from that your campaigning property never goes down
please go out and have a look around, have a great day
thankyou
robots
Robots,
What I don't understand is why the "bears" persist in standing on the side and saying that the price isn't rising. The evidence from doing the hard yards says so.
Also I think a lot of people don't factor in externalities. It's said that housing should be going up the same rate as inflation, ceteris paribus (all other things being equal). But the reality is that it's not! Our economic climate right now has these factors:
1) Taxation policy favouring investment and negative gearing
2) Supply side constraints due to state governments not releasing more land (I know of Melbourne and Sydney as being in this category)
3) Net migration into certain cities like Melbourne (meaning more demand)
People have to consider these factors as well instead of just saying "It's gone up so high, so it has to crash!".
Having said all that, note that I'm not a housing bull. I have a house, interested in the housing market, but there are better returns to be had from less effort in the share market. It's just that the housing market is rising at a slower rate than shares.
slooi1
P.S. Did the original poster end up buying his home or not?
Bad debt blowout drag on GE
IN a clear sign that credit conditions have taken a turn for the worse, a blowout in bad debts has resulted in a profit slump for the local consumer and business finance operations of GE
Loan impairment losses for GE Capital Finance Australasia, which bought AGC from Westpac five years ago, jumped 54 per cent from $185 million to $285 million.
Along with a higher tax bill, this contributed to a 31 per cent slide in net profit from $159 million to $109 million.
The GE division, with total loans and advances of $13 billion, up from $12 billion, represents only part of the fast-growing group in Australia.
Apart from AGC, the unit includes credit-card services, the Custom Fleet leasing and fleet management business purchased from National Australia Bank for $550 million, and general and life insurance activities. It does not include Wizard Home Loans.
GE representatives were unavailable for comment on the accounts, lodged yesterday with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.
However, the GE Capital Finance numbers are consistent with warnings from the nation's big-bank chief executives in the recent interim profit reporting season that the credit cycle had turned, with stresses appearing in unsecured lending and credit-card operations, in particular.
ANZ boss John McFarlane said he expected provisions to be higher in the second half, with the first half unusually low due to recoveries.
NAB chief executive John Stewart said he was most concerned about the consumer space.
"The consumer is getting overextended with debt in certain pockets and that will always come out in danger areas like credit cards and unsecured lending," Mr Stewart said.
JP Morgan banking analyst Brian Johnson said yesterday personal lending loss rates were rising "quite dramatically", as shown by provisions at the GE unit rising to 219 basis points (as a percentage of total loans and advances).
Comparative rates for the big-four banks were far lower, at less than 20 basis points, but this was because of their massive, low-risk home lending books.
Mr Johnson estimated credit-card losses were running at about 260 basis points.
"Westpac's sale of AGC is now shown to be a pretty good decision, despite the short-term dilution in earnings per share at the time," he said.
"The banking industry is now exiting the optimal part of the cycle, and things will get worse from here."
GE's tax bill in 2006 was sharply higher, up from $18 million to $70 million. Unlike 2005, when it took a $39 million benefit from paying too much tax previously, the business had to stump up an extra $6 million.
Total assets at the end of last year came to $17.1 billion, up from $14.5 billion.
Finance income was relatively steady at $1.62 billion, but non-interest income doubled from $387 million to $767 million.
The biggest contributor was operating lease rental income, largely from Custom Fleet, which surged from $74 million to $223 million.
Custom Fleet contributed $167 million in revenue and a net loss of $2 million to the group from August 1 last year.
The total asset base for the GE group in Australia is estimated to be about $40 billion, up from $8 billion five years ago.
GE Capital Finance directors said they expected to grow the business further this year.
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,21780273-462,00.html#
with stresses appearing in unsecured lending and credit-card operations, in particular.
"The consumer is getting overextended with debt in certain pockets and that will always come out in danger areas like credit cards and unsecured lending," Mr Stewart said.
JP Morgan banking analyst Brian Johnson said yesterday personal lending loss rates were rising "quite dramatically",
Comparative rates for the big-four banks were far lower, at less than 20 basis points, but this was because of their massive, low-risk home lending books.
That comment only relates to "the big four" and is most likely true. However there is a ton of lending now from outside the big four and I would suggest the situation is remarkably different.Hmm nothing to do with housing.
Comparative rates for the big-four banks were far lower, at less than 20 basis points, but this was because of their massive, low-risk home lending books.
<H2>Adelaide rental market 'remains tight'
</H2>23rd May 2007, 12:03 WST
Adelaide's tight rental market continues with a vacancy rate of 1.01 per cent last month, the Real Estate Institute of South Australia says.
Institute president Mark Sanderson said property investors were the big winners from the rental squeeze.
It is vital that more investors get in on the property scene to help alleviate the shortage of properties, Mr Sanderson said.
If people are considering property investment there is no better time.
That comment only relates to "the big four" and is most likely true. However there is a ton of lending now from outside the big four and I would suggest the situation is remarkably different.
Indeed!"I believe the future is only the past again, entered through another gate." Sir Arthur Wing Pinero 1893
Here comes the next generation
I think the Aussie housing bust/credit crunch has just begun...
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