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House prices to stagnate for 'years'

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Nonsense.

And completely off topic.
 


Only question is if it is going to happen slowly and surplus homes are going to be absorbed, or this is going to spark sellers stampede and long awaited by some, severe drop in house prices.
 
Incorrect. The majority of equity release credit flows into investments, not discretionary spending. The "glee" of equities bulls posting every negative sentiment-filled article on this thread tends to overlook the fact that credit & bull markets are intertwined, and residential property equity is perhaps the easiest bulk crediut available to the average consumer.

... And people wonder why federal & state governments don't crack down on the huge land banks being held by developers
 
Debt = Slavery, obviously the majority of people are either too stupid or ignorant to do some research to find out they are being f^cked up the Ass...
Surely the debt held decreases proportionally to the equivalent reduction in spending power as a result of inflation on cash-held savings?

Cash = depreciating asset.
 
Stock fall Hits Buyers!

Todays Sunday mail, cant find it online, dodgy dodgy .....


"The Gold Coats most exclusive residential strip is up for sale, atleast 16 properties along Hedges and Albatross ave have gone to market"

Agents say Buyers withdrew offers in the 1.5 to 6m during the week citing "issues with shares "


Bluechip Bluechip
 
Surely the debt held decreases proportionally to the equivalent reduction in spending power as a result of inflation on cash-held savings?

Cash = depreciating asset.
This is correct, the current monetary system is based on debt, at some point like what is happening in the USA, a debt based monetary system is unsustainable and will eventually collapse.

Why do you think the whole system, including the Taxation System rewards people who have debt.

Could it be that the same people who run the RBA, also run the ATO?
 
Rent is the New Buy - wtf these guys musta been reading my work



http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23148424-5011140,00.html
 


Why will a devolper care about Higher Interest rates or falling prices in the wider market if his business profits are protected by falling input costs such has which just been passed by the Brisbane council and possibly more from the mayor hopeful ?

Anyway i'd rather sell 100 cans of coke that cost me 50 cents ea for $1 ea than only 10 at $2 ea, wouldnt you ?

My debate in this thread has never been on demand, its been about Average Realestate being at minimum already fully priced to what the average buyer can bare. Demand is there at the right price.

I still maintain the Realestate Industry has been awfully quiet so far this year, dont hear the usual on bubblevision ....

another quote from todays Suday Mail ....

" PRDnationwides Syd Walker said canal homes were worst hit with 40p/c fewer buyers making contact in the last two weeks"

further along ...

They are reporting a slower start than normal for this time of year "
 
Incorrect. The majority of equity release credit flows into investments, not discretionary spending.

Do you have some stats on this? Or are you calling Renos investments? I guess it adds value to the house.

The data I have seen (Which I must admit I can't find now) suggests the bulk of it goes into Renovations (Kitchens, Bathrooms, additions etc) and Debt Consolidation. Naturally consolidating the Credit Card debt and other personal loans generally leads to further spending.

Other categories was Holidays, 4WD (O.k. any Vehicle inc Caravans), Education Expenses etc. I do remember other investments and investments in real estate, but they were under the reno & debt consolidation.

Possibly the data I have was a couple of years ago, and I would have no trouble believing after a couple of years of things only going up, the incentive would be there for people to bail into investments that well, you know, only go up.
 
 
Australia average pretax wage = 55k , average House 440k , thats over 10x post tax income = Does not compute.QUOTE]

ha ha ha ha, guess what NC that tells me RE is as high as ever, so much for stagnation

thankyou very much

robots

So, do you think that real estate prices will remain at these high ratios for the long term?

For over a century, the ratio has hovered around 3.5x, except for the occasional boom and bust. Has this fundamental law of real estate suddenly changed?

Maybe the real estate spruikers are right. Maybe there'll always be a limited supply of real estate on our vast and sparsely populated continent.
 
hello,

yes I do and I think they are set to worsen slightly,

but still plenty of affordable houses around,

kathmandu went over this again and again,

it is easily fixed by getting a better paying job but the socialists who run all the propaganda dont like you to say that, anyone heard of promotion

for instance a labourer in Vic on EBA rates is on around 60k a year with site allow, travel allow etc, and you also get portable sick leave, redunancy etc

now if you move from one of those low paying IT jobs into the labouring market presto,

thankyou

robots
 
for instance a labourer in Vic on EBA rates is on around 60k a year with site allow, travel allow etc, and you also get portable sick leave, redunancy etc


Hello


Just checked jobsearch.gov.au under " melbourne Labourers, Factory and Machine Workers - Construction and Earthmoving Labourers - Multiple Occupations " 52 positions available .....

These people have 20 of them ...


http://jobsearch.gov.au/SearchResults/Job.aspx?st=11&WHCode=0&rgn=7114vwst%2c7114vnwe%2c7114vnor%2c7114vest%2c7114vswe%2c7114viea%2c7114vsou%2c7114vpen%2c7114vsea&Occ=7111%2c9912%2c9924%2c9913&print=0&NumMJL=0&CommJobs=0&CurPage=1&TotalRec=21&JobPos=17&JobID=166470156&SortDir=0&SortField=0&

You telling little porkpies again Robots ? I noticed you didnt mention how many hours for 6ok Labourer jobs, maybe 10hrs a day 7 days a week ? I have no Doubt some Labourers get 60k in Melbourne but certainly not all or even half.

but still plenty of affordable houses around,

Tell us more , examples, use average wages, average house prices, current and expected Interest rates, allow for cost of living etc, nice little project for you
 
hello,

check out cfmeu vic site and you can download rates from them,

10% super, reduncancy, site allowance isnt on the page

the latest table is for 06, so proably been some increases from 06

happy reading NC

thankyou

robots
 

Oh your talking about the small time Muppets ? The Flippers and wannabe property moguls, sure they are the first to be sqeezed out.

Big developers keep pumping out blocks etc as long as someone is waiting to buy, they dont go on holiday for a decade waiting for low interest rates etc.

Only going to be helped along by Governments/Councils etc, higer Interest rates but cheaper blocks etc because of Infrastructure charges being slashed.

Developers still make money no matter what, they pay less for the land and now less for other development costs, worse comes to worse they lower the profit margin, simple, the people who paid top dollar at the peak lose out.

The economy doesnt stop because of higher rates, in theory itll slow down though.
 
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