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Ijustnewit said:
The heat is back and starting to fire up in the Southeast. Melbourne back into the mid thirties , Hobart the low thirties hot dry and strong winds and total fire bans again. It's nearly April :eek:
My prediction of the Hottest March on written records is looking certain now.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/melbournes-temperatures-bounce-into-easter/24137
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I wouldn't be betting on this March being the hottest on record mate.

Very unlikely to happen despite the string of 30 plus days.

Check the records for 1940. They had a ridiculous heat wave which resulted in an average maximum for the month of 28.9C. We'll see

http://indymedia.org.au/2013/03/12/melbourne-heatwave-a-sizzling-autumn-end-to-an-angry-summer
 
basilio said:
I wouldn't be betting on this March being the hottest on record mate.

Very unlikely to happen despite the string of 30 plus days.

Check the records for 1940. They had a ridiculous heat wave which resulted in an average maximum for the month of 28.9C. We'll see

http://indymedia.org.au/2013/03/12/melbourne-heatwave-a-sizzling-autumn-end-to-an-angry-summer
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Hobart is sitting @ 23 deg daily average , record is 22.9 and with tomorrow it's as good as gone.
Melbourne will go very close currently 28.3 max average , so as you said we'll see.:)
 
Ijustnewit said:
Hobart on target for hottest March on record.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/hobart-on-target-for-hottest-march-on-record/24162

I think this year my air conditioners will get more use than the gas heating :confused:

I can't wait to see some snow on those mountains , but it seems a long way off .
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There was a significant fall of rain across most of the state (Tas) recently, some parts up to 180mm over the past 2 weeks, but overall the warm / dry trend does seem to be intact.

Bureau of Meteorology outlook is for cool (especially nights) and dry over Autumn. That is, relatively little cloud compared to normal. :2twocents
 
Ijustnewit said:
The heat is back and starting to fire up in the Southeast. Melbourne back into the mid thirties , Hobart the low thirties hot dry and strong winds and total fire bans again. It's nearly April :eek:
My prediction of the Hottest March on written records is looking certain now.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/melbournes-temperatures-bounce-into-easter/24137
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It's official Hottest March on Record

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-02/hottest-march-on--record/4605606?section=tas
 
Quote Originally Posted by Ijustnewit View Post
The heat is back and starting to fire up in the Southeast. Melbourne back into the mid thirties , Hobart the low thirties hot dry and strong winds and total fire bans again. It's nearly April
My prediction of the Hottest March on written records is looking certain now.
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http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/m...o-easter/24137

It's interesting how miscommunication can occur. When Ijustnewit put up his post suggesting that March would be the hottest month on record I thought he was referring to Melbournes weather and suggested that probably wouldn't happen.

In fact of course Melbourne didn't have its hottest March on record - but Tasmania did ! So if one is not too specific you can always be right. :D

Cheers !!
 
basilio said:
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/m...o-easter/24137

It's interesting how miscommunication can occur. When Ijustnewit put up his post suggesting that March would be the hottest month on record I thought he was referring to Melbournes weather and suggested that probably wouldn't happen.

In fact of course Melbourne didn't have its hottest March on record - but Tasmania did ! So if one is not too specific you can always be right. :D

Cheers !!
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Yeah Sorry Bas , I was banging on about Tassie ( as usual ) , I should have made it clearer ...oops :)
 
Perth is not far off the hottest April day on record of 37.6 set on the 9th in 1910.

Top so far today: 36.8. Currently: 36.4 with a NNW wind.
 
drsmith said:
Perth is not far off the hottest April day on record of 37.6 set on the 9th in 1910.

Top so far today: 36.8. Currently: 36.4 with a NNW wind.
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lol - I wonder what made it the same temp 103 years ago. That blows the warming and climate change theories, surely...:rolleyes:
 
sails said:
lol - I wonder what made it the same temp 103 years ago. That blows the warming and climate change theories, surely...:rolleyes:
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If the theory postulated that a certain temperature level could not occur 103 years ago. Do the climate change theories postulate that?
 
Records only started being taken recently (within the last 200 years). In the first year of taking records for every particular place, all records were set. Within the next five years the majority were broken. Were people stupid enough to jump up and down saying it was meaningful in some way or did they realise that unless you're breaking an exceptional number of records *thousands* of years after you start taking records, or the records are significantly above the previous records it doesn't matter at all? Obviously they weren't crying disaster, but we are making that idiotic mistake now. We also find more and more obscure records to break; most days above x in a row in such and such particular month, most days with x precipitation within a such and such period... the fact that there are gajillions of records being broken shows that there are gajillions of things being formulated in order to create the illusion of things happening which are not.

It doesn't matter at all if we break some record set over 100 years ago by a fraction of one degree - it would be statistically astonishing if we weren't breaking records all the time, even if there was no climate change, and climate change is a completely natural thing anyway, and the actual evidence doesn't point to it having been sent out of whack. We presumably are influencing the climate, but there's no evidence (other than concocted nonsense posing as evidence) to show that we have changed things, so we really can't say by how much, or even if we're making things hotter or cooler than they naturally would have been, or whether we're making things better or worse than they naturally would have been.
 
Sdajii said:
It doesn't matter at all if we break some record set over 100 years ago by a fraction of one degree - it would be statistically astonishing if we weren't breaking records all the time, even if there was no climate change, and climate change is a completely natural thing anyway, and the actual evidence doesn't point to it having been sent out of whack.
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Could you cite the source and research for the actual evidence that you refer to please?
 
Some Dude said:
Could you cite the source and research for the actual evidence that you refer to please?
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Are you kidding me? It's so self evident that asking for a reference is like asking for proof and references to confirm that daytime temperatures are typically warmer than night temperatures.

It's 11.15am, the temperature is the hottest it has been all day! Every half hour for the last few hours the temperature record has been broken! At this rate I'm going to cook to death before the end of the week! We're all doomed!
 
Sdajii said:
Are you kidding me? It's so self evident that asking for a reference is like asking for proof and references to confirm that daytime temperatures are typically warmer than night temperatures.

It's 11.15am, the temperature is the hottest it has been all day! Every half hour for the last few hours the temperature record has been broken! At this rate I'm going to cook to death before the end of the week! We're all doomed!
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I apologise for being unclear, I did not copy the correct portion of your original post. I have highlighted the portion that I was intending to ask about.

Sdajii said:
It doesn't matter at all if we break some record set over 100 years ago by a fraction of one degree - it would be statistically astonishing if we weren't breaking records all the time, even if there was no climate change, and climate change is a completely natural thing anyway, and the actual evidence doesn't point to it having been sent out of whack. We presumably are influencing the climate, but there's no evidence (other than concocted nonsense posing as evidence) to show that we have changed things, so we really can't say by how much, or even if we're making things hotter or cooler than they naturally would have been, or whether we're making things better or worse than they naturally would have been.
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Climate scientists seem to disagree with your statement that there is no evidence to show that we have changed things. I assume you are referring to their evidence as concocted nonsense posing as evidence?

If so then:

Some Dude said:
Could you cite the source and research for the actual evidence that you refer to please?
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In other words, what evidence informs your opinion on the subject?
 
Ijustnewit said:
Hobart is running hot

A 15 Month streak of above average temperatures. This April is already looking like going that way as well.
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I was in Launceston today. It was as though it was literally Summer - people wearing shorts etc and sure didn't feel like normal April weather to me.:2twocents
 
Somedude: Obviously you can't ask someone to demonstrate that something isn't there. That's like me asking you to find a peer reviewed reference which says I am not king of Mars and all the Martians. It doesn't exist, but not because it is true. Obviously it is not true.

If you want to play the 'let's refer to specific references' game, hey, you pick one and we can dissect it to you heart's content. There is so much myth and vague belief that 'the climate scientists unanimously agree that humans have radically altered the climate which would otherwise have remained at a natural and constant level without any fluctuation at all'. That's just not the case.

The funding is all biased. There is no funding available for scientists who seek to find that everything is fine and nothing is going on. No one wants to put masses of money and time into making their own department redundant. I left a career in science, and no small part of that was being sick of the stupid bias and dishonesty.
 
Sdajii said:
Somedude: Obviously you can't ask someone to demonstrate that something isn't there. That's like me asking you to find a peer reviewed reference which says I am not king of Mars and all the Martians. It doesn't exist, but not because it is true. Obviously it is not true.
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But can cite evidence for the obviously positive claim:

Sdajii said:
We presumably are influencing the climate, but there's no evidence (other than concocted nonsense posing as evidence) to show that we have changed things, so we really can't say by how much, or even if we're making things hotter or cooler than they naturally would have been, or whether we're making things better or worse than they naturally would have been.
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In other words, you are asserting that the evidence accepted by the overwhelming majority of climate scientists is concoted nonsense posing as evidence. Can you provide the evidence for this assertion?

Sdajii said:
If you want to play the 'let's refer to specific references' game, hey, you pick one and we can dissect it to you heart's content.
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If I was being really specific, I would highlight that you are in fact making an assertion when you say "there is no evidence". It's akin to asserting that there is no God. It's not falsifiable so it has limited use as a statement of truth or fact. More pertinently, there is evidence, you just happen to disagree with the conclusions drawn from it.

I'm happy with my selection above with regard to my identification of an assertion i.e. can cite any viable reference, research, etc for your claim that the evidence is concocted.

Sdajii said:
There is so much myth and vague belief that 'the climate scientists unanimously agree that humans have radically altered the climate which would otherwise have remained at a natural and constant level without any fluctuation at all'. That's just not the case.
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I agree, it is not unanimous and I am unsure why you would choose that word in this context. The Big Bang theory is not unanimously accepted by physicists either. There is however in both cases an overwhelming majority
in the respective fields of the relevant scientists who do agree which forms the current scientific consensus.

Sdajii said:
The funding is all biased.
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Please demonstrate or cite reference to something viable for this assertion.

Sdajii said:
There is no funding available for scientists who seek to find that everything is fine and nothing is going on. No one wants to put masses of money and time into making their own department redundant.
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I doubt that but I assume you meant colloquially. In some ways, it reminds me of Intelligent Design proponents complaining that funding is not available for ID when there is no viable research track that can be associated with the asserted destination. Why would anyone other than those with a vested or ideological interest throw money at an argument that has been had and agreed upon already by a scientific consensus without compelling reason?

Sdajii said:
I left a career in science, and no small part of that was being sick of the stupid bias and dishonesty.
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What was your field of science?
 

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