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Julia said:
....Why is it OK to hit them once? What about if you don't hit hard enough and need to give another whack to equate to what a harder first blow would do?
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Reasonable force crappy argument makes me cringe.

Fair enough, martial arts specialists can probably deliver measured force to whatever they do, on the other hand average citizens don't even know what their physical force can do, so how to make it reasonable especially that they also don't know strength of their opponent!
 
lol you guys make me laugh, all this rubbish talk about reasonable force etc....

In NSW thankfully the shooters party passed the home invasion bill which basically means if you kill someone your innocent till proven guilty meaning the law is within your favour and as long as you can prove the intruder was trying to attack/kill you then you have no problems. ****ty still i know.

Best thing is get your gun license (shotgun category A) yes after bull**** paperwork, 6 weeks, a few hundred dollars and common sense you will have it.

Buy a $500 short double barrel shotgun (stoeger or boito) get a 5 shotshell holder and fit it to your buttpad (extra rounds cant hurt). Have buckshot loads ready and place $300 safe in your bedroom where you sleep so you are complying with all bull**** laws.

$1000 and some paperwork and time will have you sorted

or.............

Buy an illegal gun for whatever amount and keep it next to you when you sleep.

I use the 1st option and pretty much never worry about intruders as i have a wife and 2yr old daughter.

My house was broken into just before xmas and they are lucky i wasnt there.

Remember shoot 1st then worry later, as you and your family's life is 1000% more important than the scumbag/s who break in.

Case closed...........
 
Yikes - this one is only 2 suburbs away

Home invasion - Eastwood
Tuesday, 01 Jun 2010 03:47am

A crime scene has been established following a serious assault in Eastwood overnight.

About 2.15am today (June 1) police were called to a home on Raymond Street following reports a number people had forced their way into the premises and assaulted the male occupant.

The man suffered significant head injuries and was taken to Royal North Shore Hospital where he remains in a serious condition.

Eastwood Police attended the premises and obtained further information.

As a result of those inquiries, officers patrolling the vicinity of the home arrested a man and a woman, allegedly driving the victim’s vehicle.

They were taken to Ryde Police Station where they are currently assisting police with their inquiries.

Further officers, with the assistance of the Dog Squad, located a further two men, allegedly hiding underneath a house nearby.

They were arrested and also taken to Ryde Police Station where they are currently assisting with inquires.

Detectives from the Eastwood Local Area Command and other specialist police will continue their investigations.

Anyone who may have any information about this matter should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or detectives at the Eastwood Local Area Command.
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At least they were caught.
 
Most home invasions take place on the homes of drug sellers or growers

So non-drug sellers dont have much to worry about

If you ever kill or maim some home invaders or anyone else, get a knife and pop it into their hand, making sure their figerprints are are on it...they must of stole it from your kitchen

Or check out various websites re "Build your own flamethrower" ..amazingly easy to build and I personally would take immense enjoyment on roasting any scum stupid enough to violate my home and threaten my family

A well set up motion sensor activated lighting system, dog, and strong doors would deter all but the most determined raiders.

No jury in the land will convict you.

If any individual burglar ever broke into my place while I was there, there life would be at extreme risk.
 
awg said:
Most home invasions take place on the homes of drug sellers or growers

So non-drug sellers dont have much to worry about

If you ever kill or maim some home invaders or anyone else, get a knife and pop it into their hand, making sure their figerprints are are on it...they must of stole it from your kitchen

Or check out various websites re "Build your own flamethrower" ..amazingly easy to build and I personally would take immense enjoyment on roasting any scum stupid enough to violate my home and threaten my family

A well set up motion sensor activated lighting system, dog, and strong doors would deter all but the most determined raiders.

No jury in the land will convict you.

If any individual burglar ever broke into my place while I was there, there life would be at extreme risk.
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Wouldn't you get done for arson for torching your own house awg :D :D :D
 
awg said:
Or check out various websites re "Build your own flamethrower" ..amazingly easy to build and I personally would take immense enjoyment on roasting any scum stupid enough to violate my home and threaten my family
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How about a $20 'Super-Soaker' loaded with household ammonia or bleach? I think spraying them in the eyes with that would deter them quick smart!

Oh no, I forgot, they can then sue you for personal injury, so you're better off going for the kill. Dead men can't sue.
 
I had an attempted home invasion in December 2009. I was the only person at home thankfully. It was at 2:30am and I had the bed in the lounge room due to renovations. I screamed as they tried to enter through the window located 1m from my bed. They hit the stop (dowel in window frame) and despite my screaming, continued to try and force entry, shaking the window frame hard enough to shake the entire wall. I picked up a 3-seater lounge (talk about the power of adrenalin) and jammed it against the window pushing the first person out. They then tried around back (!!!) and only ran off when they tripped over some junk and woke others in the area. The police said I was lucky, as there were 2 other similar incidents that night, one of these ending ion a serious assult. If they were the same people, they were drug-fueled and very strong because of this. It was a scary experience, though in hindsight I did the right thing. If I had waited for the first person to fully enter and bashed them with a cricket bat etc then they'd know where I live and might come after me or worse still, my family. I've had no problem since, and really hope that it stays this way.
 
My own propensity for pent-up rage following a few acts of thievery
against me does worry me a bit.

Got threatened by a couple of doped-up junkies at my previous work shed, there had been some attempted previous property thefts.

I totally lost it and grabbed a very heavy Stilson (pipe wrench)

They saw the maniacal look in my eye and slunk of like dogs.

Just as well, I would have split at least one skull like a melon for sure.

Same thing when 4 car thieves crashed their car and damaged my property in the early hours of the morning.

My neighbours said the next day they saw me thru their curtains standing shirtless, armed with an axe in each hand, thought I was crazy confronting them. They drove of as fast as they could, with the wheel rim only sparking on the roadway.

My step-brother, a huge man, has twice broken bones of thieves he caught in the act. No charges laid against him, or lawsuits.

As alluded to earlier, wounding some law-breaking excrement does run the risk of their family seeking revenge.

Maybe its just human nature. I understand that in PNG and Ethiopia,
and probably many other places, that if someone humiliates you,
the culturally expected outcome is that you should kill them.

Strangely I dont worry much about my wife, who works alone in a house, in the allied-health field. She is such a good talker, I reckon she could persuade anything. I did want her to have aforementioned Stilson handy, but she wont.
 
Had it happen once before. Been prepared for it ever since.
A drunk aboriginal man tried to bust in through the front door in the middle of the night. Only to be greeted square in the fact by a cricket bat at full swing.

Now I sleep with a sharp blade (I use to collect sword) and my old rotten fishing/combat knife next to the bed. Now it almost a let down when I got inspect a noise and find nothing.
 
I am a tool collector ( and user).

have a vast array of lethal objects that are not technically weapons

I often bring them inside for some restoration work or other ( much to my wifes chagrin)

Old axes, hammers, hatchets, cutting implements and even samuari swords.

Some of them even reside in various locations in my bedroom.

never answer the door to anyone late at night.

I made that mistake once, the guy had knocked on the wrong hotel door, thought it was his mates room, and just came barging in drunk.

I just managed to pull my punch inches from his face as we both realised it was a mistake
 
It is easier, live like I do in the city on the 22nd floor of a apartment tower with full security and security guards at night. Leave the front door unlocked and the balcony doors unlocked. Unless you have an electronic master key pass, you cannot get to my floor.

Even better, I'm relatively poor compared to my neighbours, they will be robbed first. The only threat is some seedy characters that live there due to the fortress like building.

Never had a problem unless they can scale buildings.

When I was living on the ground, had full security alarm, I dont like waking during the night to see a stranger standing at the end of my bed.

Protection first, fight second.

Cheers
 
awg said:
I am a tool collector ( and user).
have a vast array of lethal objects that are not technically weapons
I often bring them inside for some restoration work or other ( much to my wifes chagrin)
Old axes, hammers, hatchets, cutting implements and even samuari swords.
Some of them even reside in various locations in my bedroom.
never answer the door to anyone late at night.
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Well said!
You sound like a NUT, but, one needs to have a little bit of craziness in themselves. If your going to protect yourself, "you need to let the animal out of the cage" so to speak. Nothing wrong with having a baseball bat, hammer in the boot of your car either, or next to the divers seat for that matter.
 
DB008 said:
Well said!
You sound like a NUT, but, one needs to have a little bit of craziness in themselves. If your going to protect yourself, "you need to let the animal out of the cage" so to speak. Nothing wrong with having a baseball bat, hammer in the boot of your car either, or next to the divers seat for that matter.
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rofl..thats me..you would be better of trying to break into Ivan Milats joint than mine..yeah, I channel the animal/psycopath..scares the bejesus out of people when they see that face.

btw, a large shifting spanner is the thing to have handy in the car, as it is not a weapon, but a legit tool
 
subasurf said:
Had it happen once before. Been prepared for it ever since.
A drunk aboriginal man tried to bust in through the front door in the middle of the night. Only to be greeted square in the fact by a cricket bat at full swing.

Now I sleep with a sharp blade (I use to collect sword) and my old rotten fishing/combat knife next to the bed. Now it almost a let down when I got inspect a noise and find nothing.
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Holy mother of God. I am appalled by my spelling and grammar in my previous post....I must have been tired.
 
It is actually super easy to build a really powerful tazer-style device. I have an electronics background and have made one (subsequently destroyed) that generated a 10cm spark and ran on a cordless drill battery pack (no, I won't post or send plans, so please don't ask me). I don't keep such things as I'm worried about what would happen to my family if I attacked an intruder, for instance in the incident I described in my previous post. I'm guessing that if you just scream (or cooperate in a a threatening situation where the people are already in) that you'll end up avoiding confrontation and subsequent recriminations. In my case, we would have had to move away as the area is that bad that I could just about be certain of recriminations. Some of the people act as though they've been hard done by if they've been caught in the act of doing something illegal! I made a decision to keep a low profile for the sake of my family, as next door just moved away as the chap disclosed that he was in the force and subsequently they copped assults and intimidation (attempts to burn their house down etc). I am not in the force, but I am pretty sure that these thugs (or their mates) would have a go at some point down the track if I had done something that morning in December. I am focusing on prevention, and have plans for window bars, reinforced doors, better lighting, alarm and panic button, etc This I trust would make our home less attractive to intruders/invaders (not always one and the same, but in our case quite possibly so).
 

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