Home Invasions - What to do?

roland · 28 May 2010

Seems like I am hearing a lot more reports on people being subjected to home invasions, most tend to be from armed intruders and ending up in personal harm.

My sister has been subject to 2 home invasions, once while she lived in Ryde - non violent, more of a burgerly while she slept. 2nd one was in Epping and the intruder smashed through the loungeroom window and abducted her, she escaped when the guy had to get petrol. Both instances involved 2 x small children being present, first instance hubby was away working on an oil rig, second instance was after hubby had passed away - so she was quite vulnerable in each case.

Now, if I could do what I would like to do, I would buy a firearm and feel a little more in control. Of course this is not legal and it concerns me that I am vulnerable and have little control over my own protection and the protection of my wife.

Is this something I should be concerned about? Is the protection of your family and property something that worries you?

Am I worrying about something that has an extremely low chance possibility of happening? I guess I am a little more sensitive since my sister has had 2 x occurrances.

Would like to hear what others have to say about personal and property protection.

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

It is still legal to buy and own a crossbow

Buy 1 crossbow.

wait for home intruder.

Shoot bastard with crossbow.

Place knife in intruders hand.

Ring cops.

roland · 28 May 2010

nunthewiser said:
It is still legal to buy and own a crossbow

Buy 1 crossbow.

wait for home intruder.

Shoot bastard with crossbow.

Place knife in intruders hand.

Ring cops.

actually it's not:

NSW and ACT customers are advised that crossbows are prohibited in both jurisdictions, except that it is possible to obtain a permit for bona fide target shooting at recognised archery clubs. Please consult respective authorities.

wayneL · 28 May 2010

nunthewiser said:
It is still legal to buy and own a crossbow

Buy 1 crossbow.

wait for home intruder.

Shoot bastard with crossbow.

Place knife in intruders hand.

Ring cops.

.... and the first thing you say is "He was trying to kill me"

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

Buy Illegal Firearm

Wait for intruder

Shoot bastard with firearm.

make signs of a struggle .

Place firearm in intruders hand.

Ring cops.

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

wayneL said:
.... and the first thing you say is "He was trying to kill me"

Bingo . he threatened my life.

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

roland said:
actually it's not:

NSW and ACT customers are advised that crossbows are prohibited in both jurisdictions, except that it is possible to obtain a permit for bona fide target shooting at recognised archery clubs. Please consult respective authorities.

Sorry m8 i did not know .

Was still legal and maybe currently legal in WA as have purchased many a crossbow over the years over many counters.

roland · 28 May 2010

nunthewiser said:
Sorry m8 i did not know .

Was still legal and maybe currently legal in WA as have purchased many a crossbow over the years over many counters.

Good to see consistancy with laws across the states:

WESTERN AUSTRALIA

Currently, crossbows are a controlled weapon in WA. No licence or permit is required, however, lawful excuse is necessary. Both the Firearms and Weapons acts are under review.

Julia · 28 May 2010

Roland, that's so dreadful for your sister. I can't imagine how terrifying it would have been for her. Has the bloke been caught?

My absolutely serious recommendation is to get a good dog. I've had German Shepherds for more than 30 years, and never had any worries about my personal safety or that of my home.
However, there's one very large proviso:
Do not get a Shepherd unless you are prepared to put the time and effort into training and spending lots of time with it. They are highly intelligent working dogs and need considerable mental and physical exercise. They are not dogs to be left alone to be 'guard dogs'.

In return you will have absolute protection and loyalty if you buy from a good breeder. The dog would, in particular, be completely protective of your sister and her children. These dogs willingly give their lives to protect those they love.

When I was living in NZ in a fairly affluent area, there was a series of burglaries. No sooner did the householders replace the stolen items than they were stolen again. Security systems seemed of little value.
Eventually the police caught the offenders. They found in their home a map of the area which had a large cross through all the properties that had dogs.

One of my girls literally saved my life when I was attacked. She was not quite a year old at the time.

So sorry about your sister. Hope she has recovered from the ordeal.

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

And Roland my comments may sound flippant but i assure you they are not meant to be ..

There is no grey area when it comes to protecting ones Family and previous scenarios are where i sit in my thinking on the matter.

I truly hope your sister is able to recover from the atrocious ordeal she has experienced.

roland · 28 May 2010

Julia said:
Roland, that's so dreadful for your sister. I can't imagine how terrifying it would have been for her. Has the bloke been caught?

My absolutely serious recommendation is to get a good dog. I've had German Shepherds for more than 30 years, and never had any worries about my personal safety or that of my home.
However, there's one very large proviso:
Do not get a Shepherd unless you are prepared to put the time and effort into training and spending lots of time with it. They are highly intelligent working dogs and need considerable mental and physical exercise. They are not dogs to be left alone to be 'guard dogs'.

In return you will have absolute protection and loyalty if you buy from a good breeder. The dog would, in particular, be completely protective of your sister and her children. These dogs willingly give their lives to protect those they love.

When I was living in NZ in a fairly affluent area, there was a series of burglaries. No sooner did the householders replace the stolen items than they were stolen again. Security systems seemed of little value.
Eventually the police caught the offenders. They found in their home a map of the area which had a large cross through all the properties that had dogs.

One of my girls literally saved my life when I was attacked. She was not quite a year old at the time.

So sorry about your sister. Hope she has recovered from the ordeal.

no, she hasn't fully recovered

she has a dog, it's a spaniel of some description and given the chance would have licked the culprit to death.

the guy was caught, I ended up finding him and chased his car right to the police station where my sister had found refuge - he ran into the station wielding a knife and was duly wrestled to the floor by 8 burly policemen. He is now serving just 4 years - who knows what will happen when he gets out

roland · 28 May 2010

nunthewiser said:
And Roland my comments may sound flippant but i assure you they are not meant to be ..

There is no grey area when it comes to protecting ones Family and previous scenarios are where i sit in my thinking on the matter.

I truly hope your sister is able to recover from the atrocious ordeal she has experienced.

cool dude, I've read enough of your posts to know where you are coming from. Thanks for your concern

Julia · 28 May 2010

Roland, I'm talking about real dogs. A spaniel would be one of the most useless canines in existence from every point of view.

roland · 28 May 2010

Julia said:
Roland, I'm talking about real dogs. A spaniel would be one of the most useless canines in existence from every point of view.

yes, I would agree - if my dad was still alive, he would have called it a useless bag of fleas

actually it is a lovely dog for what it is

springhill · 28 May 2010

roland said:
Seems like I am hearing a lot more reports on people being subjected to home invasions, most tend to be from armed intruders and ending up in personal harm.

My sister has been subject to 2 home invasions, once while she lived in Ryde - non violent, more of a burgerly while she slept. 2nd one was in Epping and the intruder smashed through the loungeroom window and abducted her, she escaped when the guy had to get petrol. Both instances involved 2 x small children being present, first instance hubby was away working on an oil rig, second instance was after hubby had passed away - so she was quite vulnerable in each case.

Now, if I could do what I would like to do, I would buy a firearm and feel a little more in control. Of course this is not legal and it concerns me that I am vulnerable and have little control over my own protection and the protection of my wife.

Is this something I should be concerned about? Is the protection of your family and property something that worries you?

Am I worrying about something that has an extremely low chance possibility of happening? I guess I am a little more sensitive since my sister has had 2 x occurrances.

Would like to hear what others have to say about personal and property protection.

If it takes your fancy hire the movie Felon, with Val Kilmer & Stephen Dorff, enacts this exact scenario with a man who took the law into his own hands during a break & enter, and how it turned his life upside down. Not a fan of either actor, but brilliant movie, completely fictional i believe.

For my take Julia's advice, my GF's parents have a 2 year old German Shepard and she is the most annoyingly playful, loyal, strong willed but cheeky dog, but if she hears a noise outside at night..... WATCHOUT!!!!! Pants browningly scary!

frankie_boy · 28 May 2010

roland said:
no, she hasn't fully recovered

she has a dog, it's a spaniel of some description and given the chance would have licked the culprit to death.

the guy was caught, I ended up finding him and chased his car right to the police station where my sister had found refuge - he ran into the station wielding a knife and was duly wrestled to the floor by 8 burly policemen. He is now serving just 4 years - who knows what will happen when he gets out

he sounds like he was a mentalist!! what the hell was he trying to find ur sister for at the police station!!

roland · 28 May 2010

frankie_boy said:
he sounds like he was a mentalist!! what the hell was he trying to find ur sister for at the police station!!

my sister is a school teacher, the guy was an ex student and besotted from afar (chinese national, student visa), he had stolen my sister's mobile and the police called it to say that she was at the station - so that's where he went, armed with a knife and all

vkdirector · 28 May 2010

Crossbows are also illegal in VICTORIA as of a few years ago. Best advice is to get a decent size dog as what has been stated before. I live in a pretty rough area but I have a bull terrier and a staffy, for the last 9 years i have not had a problem.

Another item that could be handy to have under the bed and its totally legal as far as i know in all states is a compound bow. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_bow You can also get like rubber blunts ww.archery-centre.co.uk/Catalogue/ArrowHeads.shtml to go on the end of the arrows so it would be highly unlikely to be fatal but would hurt like a bitch. I know if anybody was faced with a bow all loaded up and ready to go I know I would be packing bricks. Even if the person was not going to shoot just the sight would be enough

nunthewiser · 28 May 2010

vkdirector said:
. Best advice is to get a decent size dog as what has been stated before. I live in a pretty rough area but I have a bull terrier and a staffy, for the last 9 years i have not had a problem.

Owns staffys also , great dogs , excellent with children, brilliant companions but BEWARE any silly bugger that comes at you in threat when you got one of these by your side.

gooner · 28 May 2010

Hmmmmm

I've got Siberian Huskies. Bloody useless guard dogs. Would lick them to death before biting them.

The discipline of the baseball bat is always useful. If someone is coming towards you in your own house, say get away. If they come for you, you are afraid for your life, you hit them once, very hard, in the head. Problem solved. And the police will be fine as you only hit them once.

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