If Islam is well structured then surely the extremists can't hide behind the dogma even without "an independent judiciary, backed up by a parliament and ultimately the defence forces, to handle the judgements"?
Could be just a coincedence of course;
"Two Chinese warships have docked at Iran’s principal naval port for the first time in history."
As reported in the Nytimes today.
Just in for a bit of R&R?
The 'Tony Speacial', for lunch down, in the mess today and bigger mess tomorrow. 'Kurd Sandwich'
Followed for brekky tomorrow 'Gulf of Tonkin Re-hash'.......
High Terror Alert Game stats so far;
Australians Murdered By Fanatics.............................. 0
Australian Women Murdered by their Partners.............. 3.2
Funny how we haven't heard anything from Israel about this ISIL business.
You would have thought they would be one of the first in, considering how important the US is to them in terms of arms and money.
AUSTRALIA has received a direct threat from Islamic State fighters in a chilling new video recording, which the government believes is genuine.
The 42-minute propaganda video, which has been circulated on social media, urges Muslims to launch attacks on civilians in a number of countries including France, Australia and Canada, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation News reported.
The audio, which is in Arabic but translated in an 11-page document online, calls on Muslims everywhere to attack anyone involved in the US-led coalition against it.
In the video, which has been uploaded to Twitter, IS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani said Muslims should kill “disbelievers” in countries that support “in any manner” the military action against the group in Iraq.
“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European ”” especially the spiteful and filthy French ”” or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State … kill him in any manner or way however it may be,” Adnani is heard saying, according to the translated document.
“Do not ask for anyone’s advice and do not seek anyone’s verdict. Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military, for they have the same ruling.”
He also tells supporters they are “like predatory warriors” who “face death bare chests”.
The Muslims community should be given the ultimatum.
Are you with us or against in our way of life?.....if you are with us then accept our way of life....if you are against us then go back to where Islam is practiced in your home country,
That is your interpretation, given your entrenched political stance.Our PM is making it out like we're going in, drop a few bombs and a few humanitarian packets and be home before Christmas.
Funny how we haven't heard anything from Israel about this ISIL business.
You would have thought they would be one of the first in, considering how important the US is to them in terms of arms and money.
That is your interpretation, given your entrenched political stance.
I took no such message from what he has said. Actually, entirely to the contrary. By criticising Abbott and the government you are saying our intelligence services are mistaken/entirely worthless/choose your own expression.
I suppose in such a free country as Australia you have the right to make such an assertion.
Make the most of it.
Islamic State urges Muslims to kill Australian ‘unbelievers’
http://www.news.com.au/national/islamic-state-urges-muslims-to-kill-australian-unbelievers/story-fncynjr2-1227066847053
I don't think I have a political stance, if by that you mean Labor or Liberal or Greens... I'm just sceptical.
A few weeks ago, Abbott said there won't be boots on the grounds; last week he send off 600 special forces [?] with a few F-16s. So OK, I'm wrong that he won't expect them to be home before Christmas.
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, looking at tossing away some unimportant liberties like not being locked up without charge; and have one neighbour turn against another.
I'm seeing a lot of comments along the lines of "why don't moderates speak out?" without anybody actually finding out if they are...which doesn't seem to be a particularly balanced view of the topic. There are moderate voices that are deploring what is happening in regards to ISIL. There's a couple of examples I can think of off the top of my head that have been in the news a few times...
#Notinmyname
Dr Jamal Rifi - Grand Mufti of Australia
Mohamed Elomar's own Dad
A quick google of the topic brings up plenty of examples from all over the world of moderate Muslims condemning the actions of ISIL. I'm concerned over the apparent bias I'm seeing in the thread. I work closely with an Iranian Muslim guy...he's one of the nicest guys I know, so I get concerned when I see comments that brand all Muslims with the "they are all extremists" brush. Seems short-sighted. People are just people.
Cheers
Sir O
Well they can and they do because they break the laws.
<snip /> ..... and that's just the Catholics !
We aren't the same country we were 40 years ago and we are socially poorer for it, IMO. Back then a man could count on bikini clad girls wandering the city malls, but now we are distracted by burlap wearing, wannabe Bedouin women chattels too ashamed to show themselves for fear of drawing attention to themselves and their possessive husband's ire. And we Anglo/Celtic/Norman/Nordic/Franco/Italiano/Germanic/Greco/Slavic/Russo/Oriental/etc Australians whose ancestors were put through the rigours of the Aussie new migrants assimilation grinder are too polite to make comment in case we make them feel uncomfortable ...FMD !!!
Funny how we haven't heard anything from Israel about this ISIL business.
You would have thought they would be one of the first in, considering how important the US is to them in terms of arms and money.
What about the Commos, Noco, what about the Commos?
Have you given up on your quest to rid Australia of the Reds under the Bed?
Is Muslim bashing your new flavour of the month?
At least make up your mind who you hate the most.
I think you will find it's new LNP policy to restrain the rights of citizens, because their homework says we equate behavioural boundaries with safety. Law and Order is always the bellwether agenda for political parties, coupled with the far right attitudes of the Libs that means licences to do anything, fines for being impudent and VLAD style legislations.
We aren't the same country we were 40 years ago and we are socially poorer for it, IMO. Back then a man could count on bikini clad girls wandering the city malls, but now we are distracted by burlap wearing, wannabe Bedouin women chattels too ashamed to show themselves for fear of drawing attention to themselves and their possessive husband's ire. And we Anglo/Celtic/Norman/Nordic/Franco/Italiano/Germanic/Greco/Slavic/Russo/Oriental/etc Australians whose ancestors were put through the rigours of the Aussie new migrants assimilation grinder are too polite to make comment in case we make them feel uncomfortable ...FMD !!!
Regrettably, for some time to come, the delicate balance between freedom and security may have to shift.
There may be more restrictions on some so that there can be more protections for others.
Creating new offences that are harder to beat on a technicality may be a small price to pay for saving lives and for maintaining the social fabric of an open, free and multicultural nation.
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