Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ???

[trainspotter]

Meanwhile back at the ranch 141 students/teachers were massacred in Pakistan by the Taliban and it does not rate a mention on here?

http://www.news.com.au/world/taliba...n-revenge-attack/story-fndir2ev-1227158815682

Shahrukh Khan, 16, said he and his classmates ducked below their desks when four gunmen burst into their room.
“I saw a pair of big black boots coming towards me. This guy was probably hunting for students hiding beneath the benches,” Khan told AFP from the trauma ward of the city’s Lady Reading Hospital.
Khan decided to play dead after being shot in both legs, stuffing his tie into his mouth to stifle his screams.
“The man with big boots kept on looking for students and pumping bullets into their bodies. I lay as still as I could and closed my eyes, waiting to get shot again,” he said.

Yep ... killing in the name of ....

 

[SirRumpole]

Meanwhile back at the ranch 141 students/teachers were massacred in Pakistan by the Taliban and it does not rate a mention on here?

http://www.news.com.au/world/taliba...n-revenge-attack/story-fndir2ev-1227158815682



Yep ... killing in the name of ....

I heard a Taliban spokesman say that the attack was in reprisal for attacks on Taliban strongholds.

Whatever the reason, it was disgusting.

 

[Calliope]

Glad you liked the history lesson. I assume you avidly read all the references....and maybe learnt something ?

Congratulations also on your comment. You certainly have taken out the prize for packing in the most vitriolic comments in the least possible words. Der Fueher would be proud of you..

Sorry Bas. Actually I only read it as far as the second paragraph when I could see what direction you were heading in. I'm afraid your little bit of "Der Fuhrer" vitriol does not work. Hitler cosied up to the Islamists as fellow Jew haters. So you see that most likely Der Fuhrer would be proud of you.

Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab World refers to political and military links between Germany and Arab nationalists during the era of Nazi Germany (1933–1945). The relationship between the Nazi movement and leadership and the Arab world encompassed contempt, propaganda, collaboration and in some instances emulation. Cooperative relationships were founded on shared hostilities toward common enemies, such as British and French imperialism, colonialism, and Zionism.

Wikipaedia

 

[Macquack]

Division in the community is exactly what Gillard set out to do by opening the flood gates to the people smugglers.

Noco, you get away with the most outrageous, unfounded and illogical statements I have ever read.

You should be a "shock jock", if you are not one already?

How do you propose that Julia Gillard's plan would protect her own overly generous pension and gold card, being an infidel, an atheist and a woman as well???

 

[basilio]

It doesn't take much for you to miss the point does it Calliope?

My "Der Fuehrer" reference to your comment was with regard to the formidable capacity of the German propaganda machine not their political bent.

And by the way exactly where did you get the idea I was a Jew hater ? I can't recall doing anything except stating a clearly factual account of how the Israeli state was born and the steady expansion of Israel over the last 60 years at the cost of the Arab neighbors they occupy. And that was in the context of offering part of an explanation for why most Muslims would be xissed off with The West and Israel

Don't verbal me thank you. Not nice at all....:frown:

 

[dutchie]

Meanwhile back at the ranch 141 students/teachers were massacred in Pakistan by the Taliban and it does not rate a mention on here?

See the Re: Islam: Is it inherently Evil? thread.

 

[basilio]

On a far more positive note I think the widespread adoption of people of the "I'll walk with you" hashtag to support the Muslim community is incredibly human.

The siege and deaths at Martin place are horrific. But allowing our society , as a consequence of the actions of one crazy person, to treat all Muslims as dangerous or evil is infinitely far more destructive of our souls and our psyche. Malcolm Turnball has made the point very clearly. The support offered through the "I'll walk with you" tag backs this up.

Sydney siege aftermath: #illridewithyou shows the healing power of the hashtag

Date
December 17, 2014 - 6:00PM

It isn't about the political left or right. It's not about being Australian. It's not even strictly about Muslims. It is everything about solidarity.

Before #illridewithyou went global on Monday, the idea to accompany Muslims on their daily commutes at a time when anti-Muslim sentiment was likely to be running high was just that - a good idea built on empathy for our neighbours. It was founded on the very real possibility that, in the midst of the Sydney siege, anger might be misdirected towards those who have no responsibilities whatsoever for one man's crazed actions.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nsw...ing-power-of-the-hashtag-20141217-1294i2.html

A determined love': Malcolm Turnbull calls for Australians to stay united following Martin Place tragedy

Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has made an impassioned plea for Australians not to be "corrupted by hatred" following the Lindt cafe siege.

An emotional Mr Turnbull was speaking after a memorial service held at Sydney's St Mary's Cathedral on Tuesday afternoon to pay tribute to the siege victims.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ing-martin-place-tragedy-20141216-128fhn.html

 

[trainspotter]

On a far more positive note I think the widespread adoption of people of the "I'll walk with you" hashtag to support the Muslim community is incredibly human.

The siege and deaths at Martin place are horrific. But allowing our society , as a consequence of the actions of one crazy person, to treat all Muslims as dangerous or evil is infinitely far more destructive of our souls and our psyche. Malcolm Turnball has made the point very clearly. The support offered through the "I'll walk with you" tag backs this up.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nsw...ing-power-of-the-hashtag-20141217-1294i2.html


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ing-martin-place-tragedy-20141216-128fhn.html

Healing has begun ...

"It is hard to feel hope when you feel helpless. #illridewithyou is a small act, but might be important for someone one day," Ms Kum told Fairfax Media.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/martin-place-siege-illridewithyou-hashtag-goes-viral-20141216-127rm1.html

 

[noco]

Noco, you get away with the most outrageous, unfounded and illogical statements I have ever read.

You should be a "shock jock", if you are not one already?

How do you propose that Julia Gillard's plan would protect her own overly generous pension and gold card, being an infidel, an atheist and a woman as well???

Most outrageous?????......unfounded?????......illogical statement??????

Macquack, I will post this link for the 4th time ...please read it in full.

I don't know where you were on the other 3 posts...maybe you were smoking something unusual at the time.

http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/


They have opened the doors to illegal invaders who are bringing in a religion that goes totally against our way of life. They are using Islam to create divisions in our society and turn citizen against citizen. At the same time, they have neglected our own needy; our aged and veterans, the very citizens who have contributed so much to our country and who should now be enjoying the fruits of their labour. Instead, they are living on the brink of poverty.

 

[Calliope]

On a far more positive note I think the widespread adoption of people of the "I'll walk with you" hashtag to support the Muslim community is incredibly human.

Also incredible feel-good nonsense. The incredible thing has been that there has been no backlash against the Muslim community, in spite of extreme provocation.

 

[basilio]

\ Quote Originally Posted by basilio View Post

On a far more positive note I think the widespread adoption of people of the "I'll walk with you" hashtag to support the Muslim community is incredibly human.

Also incredible feel-good nonsense. The incredible thing has been that there has been no backlash against the Muslim community, in spite of extreme provocation.

Well Calliope you clearly need to get right out there and make sure all good true Aussies understand just how vile and dangerous those psychopathic Muslims are. Perhaps they should all be tattooed and have an injected tracing chip so that we can be absolutely sure exactly WHO they are and WHERE they are ?

Perhaps they should be moved into special areas (for their own protection of course ..) . Alice Springs maybe ? Back of Bourke perhaps.

Your mates at Restore Australia would no doubt help you start up an appropriate petition. Perhaps Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones as well?

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Honestly Calliope when I read your drivel I'm reminded of the infamous quote
"Kill them all and let God sort them out"

http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/07/kill-them-all-and-let-god-sort-them-out.html

 

[Calliope]

Well Calliope you clearly need to get right out there and make sure all good true Aussies understand just how vile and dangerous those psychopathic Muslims are. Perhaps they should all be tattooed and have an injected tracing chip so that we can be absolutely sure exactly WHO they are and WHERE they are ?

Perhaps they should be moved into special areas (for their own protection of course ..) . Alice Springs maybe ? Back of Bourke perhaps.

Your mates at Restore Australia would no doubt help you start up an appropriate petition. Perhaps Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones as well?

________________________________________________________________

Honestly Calliope when I read your drivel I'm reminded of the infamous quote
"Kill them all and let God sort them out"

http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/07/kill-them-all-and-let-god-sort-them-out.html

Well, what bought that hissy-fit on? I suppose it is your disappointment that there has been no backlash against the Muslim community.

Actually I am immune to your provocatory language, Bas.

 

[Tisme]

Meanwhile back at the ranch 141 students/teachers were massacred in Pakistan by the Taliban and it does not rate a mention on here?

http://www.news.com.au/world/taliba...n-revenge-attack/story-fndir2ev-1227158815682



Yep ... killing in the name of ....

Often wonder is events like Passover were a common place method of warfare, blaming the hand of God for the evil men do to women's children.

 

[basilio]

Well, what bought that hissy-fit on? I suppose it is your disappointment that there has been no backlash against the Muslim community.

Actually I am immune to your provocatory language, Bas.

Excellent Calliope !! I am so delighted that you can smile and realise I was just being satirical.

In this great land of ours there is absolutely no way anyone, especially true patriots lRestore Australia and One Nation would dream of suggesting such UnAustralian actions.

I'm certain you and Noco would be in the frontline, arm in arm, protesting furiously.

 

[Tisme]

. The incredible thing has been that there has been no backlash against the Muslim community, in spite of extreme provocation.

That in itself is a worry....too quiet

 

[SirRumpole]

That in itself is a worry....too quiet

I'm starting to have grave doubts about the willingness and ability of the media to cover issues that are considered to controversial by the political hierarchy.

The war against IS and Ebola have disappeared from the news broadcasts, Joe Hockey's giant backdown on tax avoidance went generally un-reported, the asylum seeker issue gets little coverage any more, so I think there is reason to believe that our media is no longer independent and investigative, but compliant, self serving and indolent.

Or is it just the silly season and no one gives a stuff because all the journos are on holiday ?

 

[pixel]

That in itself is a worry....too quiet

... or it shows that Australians, in the main, are intelligent enough to see through extremist rhetoric and scaremongering. Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

 

[SirRumpole]

#illridewithyou: Queensland MP George Christensen criticises 'pathetic' social media campaign after Sydney siege

Is this guy a pill or what ?

Fact is Muslims have been attacked on public transport, public concern for them reduces a sense of isolation which is a provoker of retaliation.

We can both protect peaceful Muslims and attack radical militants at the same time, it's not a one or the other situation.

North Queensland MP George Christensen has stood by his comments on social media that the "pathetic left-wing" #illridewithyou campaign portrays Australians as racists who will attack Muslims.

The hashtag, which began trending worldwide on Twitter on Monday, was created to counter a potential anti-Muslim backlash over the Sydney siege.

Users tweeted messages declaring they would ride with anyone who was scared to take public transport because they were wearing religious dress.

But Mr Christensen, the Member for Dawson, said he thought it created a false set of victims and took the focus away from the two slain hostages, Tori Johnson and Katrina Dawson.

On Twitter he called it a "pathetic left-wing black arm band brigade campaign" that casts "Aussies as racists who will endanger Muslims".

He later told ABC News that he stood by the comments and believed the campaign was attacking Australians.

"It's saying people of the Muslim faith, who on public transport are not safe because there's going to be Australians out there who are going to attack them," he told ABC News.

"And I mean my goodness, it's insulting I think for most Australians."

He also took offence to the fact that was started late Monday night while the siege was still underway.

"This Twitter campaign started while the hostages were still at gun point, and that's what I find sickening about the whole thing," he said.

"I mean really it was a diversion of attention from where the focus should have been, for most people.

"And I think there's a lot of people out there who for political reasons don't want to discuss the hard issue of radical Islam in Australia."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-18/george-christensen-criticises-illridewithyou-campaign/5974890

 

[basilio]

... or it shows that Australians, in the main, are intelligent enough to see through extremist rhetoric and scaremongering. Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Which ever way you look at it it doesn't make sense. But whoever said that people make sense ?

 

[Value Collector]

That in itself is a worry....too quiet

... or it shows that Australians, in the main, are intelligent enough to see through extremist rhetoric and scaremongering. Who in their right mind would blame a young girl wearing a scarf for the atrocity of a madman who happened to also pray in a mosque?

Penn Jillette, said it best, and it goes along with what I have been saying on the various religion forums here.

The enemy is not Muslims, Muslims are people.
The enemy is not people, People are good.
The enemy is not Islam, The enemy is not god, there is no god.

The enemy is faith, Love and respect all people, hate and destroy all faith.

to me it's peoples ability to abandon critical thinking in favour of blind faith that leads to terrible things, if they had more doubt in their mind, I don't think they would be confident enough to do the terrible things.

Doubt, scepticism and critical thinking are vitally important, and the faithful throw those things away.