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Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ???


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... and they still don't know what's in his backpack either. Can you imagine the outcry if it's the equivalent of a suicide vest that's set off when they take him out? As long as he hasn't pulled the trigger, there's hope for the hostages' lives. Let him get tired?
 
... and they still don't know what's in his backpack either.

Yes, that is a worry, the Bag could have a device that is command detonated or even a tilt switch to trigger the device when he falls over if he gets shot, or it might just hold his teddy bear, who knows.
 

dam.

The bright side of this, if there is one, is at least they're isolated and we have well trained and well equipped professionals dealing with it. That and I think it's very hard to acquire arms and explosives in Australia so hopefully it will end with no innocents being harmed.
 
...and I think it's very hard to acquire arms and explosives in Australia so hopefully it will end with no innocents being harmed.

If you are a honest person.

To get weapons on the black market is relatively easy.
 
ABC news 24 has been running this story all day.

Talk about giving this nitwit the publicity he wants.

Tell us when its over, there must be other things happening.
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ABC news 24 has been running this story all day.

Talk about giving this nitwit the publicity he wants.

Tell us when its over, there must be other things happening.
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It wasn't long ago that you guys were blaming Abbott for ramping when he said this could happen
 
dam.

That and I think it's very hard to acquire arms and explosives in Australia so hopefully it will end with no innocents being harmed.

Well he already has the arms (shotgun), and explosives can be made relatively easily, the hardest part about building a reliable explosive device is sourcing or making a reliable detonator, let's hope if he does have a device that the detonator is rubbish, and it fails to fire.
 
They are a news agency and this is biggest news story in sydney for awhile. You are being rather precious...

Bugger all has happened in this story all day

They should treat it like a rainy day at the cricket and cross back when something happens.
 
My post contained no criticism of Abbott, only of the media.

I'm talking about a few months ago when Abbott mentioned the domestic threat. You guys were all over him for crapping on for political milage.
When I get home to the computer I will refresh your memory.lol
 
I'm talking about a few months ago when Abbott mentioned the domestic threat. You guys were all over him for crapping on for political milage.
When I get home to the computer I will refresh your memory.lol

Of course Abbott used the raids and ISIS threats for political gains. No one was saying the threat is fake or made-up, we don't know and we trust ASIO/AFP and security professionals to know.

But when your people see the biggest terrorism raid in its country, as its leader it is not wise to then go on TV and say stuff like terrorism is easy, all a person need is a knife, an iphone and a victim - that's not how you calm people.
 

Let's hope he's incompetent. The 5 victims who managed to escaped might be a good sign that he is.

I'm just glad Australia have tough gun-control.
 

It was about enacting stricter asio and federal police protocols.
Sure seemed to worry some
 
It was about enacting stricter asio and federal police protocols.
Sure seemed to worry some

Rights to privacy and presumed innocent until proven guilty aside, it worries me because metadata retention slows down my internet

But good thing I managed to get a speed maximiser package - for free... so maybe all is well.

Jokes aside, I hope this terrorism/hostage crisis ends well.
 
Damn, reports are now saying that two people have died, one is probably the gun man, and the other an innocent hostage.
 
I'd like the media taken to task over their perpetual coverage.

You'd think Sydney had been invaded and turned into an Islamic state. Every station had blanket coverage through the day and night. They just kept on repeating the days events.

Why do we need to give these idiots more media coverage? It's like we've decided to help with their PR.

Ray Hadley and his stupid comments through the day didn't help either. There was so much mythinformation being generated.
 
It was about enacting stricter asio and federal police protocols.
Sure seemed to worry some

Exactly what protocols were they trying to enact, and how would those protocols have helped to prevent this tragedy from occurring?

ASIO and the AFP have some pretty draconian laws behind them already. Perpetual preventative detention without trial, without even being able to hear the evidence being used to hold you.

If the reports are correct and this guy went out on his own, then there's really not much one could do to stop him. It would be like trying to stop any murdered acting alone. No amount of surveillance powers would help.
 

Isn't it about time we deported some of these lunatics before they did any damage ?

And why was he given political asylum in the first place ?

Just crazy.
 
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